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    #31
    Originally posted by Twztid View Post
    Hunting weird things like giraffe and zebra and elephants wildebeest...just don't see the point in it...perhaps someone could enlighten me on what they do with the meat. I've just never seen people say yummy giraffe steak tonight. I know it's "sport" but you would have to pay serious money to shoot one of thoes things in there wildlife pen I have no problem taking animals to eat and by no way a tree huger but killing some animals seem pointless just to say "you have" killed an elephant with a bow
    Wow

    I am absolutely amazed at what you just wrote, it is quite obvious that you don't know anything about Africa. "Wildlife Pen" you can't possibly beleive that.
    That would be like saying that in the hole USA, all animals are hunted in small pens, including elk, wild sheep, ect.
    Spend 10-20 days in a row tracking elephant 10 to 30 miles a day in the gusu sand when it is close to 100 degrees and tell me it is like shooting them in a pen. I have 2 friends that were tusked by ele's, one spent 6 months in a hospital the other is dead.

    Some people have problems with hunting lions, wild lions and the breeder stock that is being killed off in South Africa is not even close to being the same.

    South Africa is a lot like Texas there are many high fence places that you can hunt most anything, some wild some not so much. Most of africa is not fenced

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      #32
      The locals utilize every part of the animal for survival. And since you cannot take ANY meat out of country, that is the best policy. It is cool if you would not do it, because there are plenty who will. Also it is ok that you dont care for it, but do not let your lack of knowledge be your deciding factor here.

      Do some research and find out if it is good or not, and if it benefits any one in any way. Then make an informed non emotion based decision.
      Last edited by bowhuntntxn; 10-28-2011, 06:40 AM.

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        #33
        I'm not interested in hunting Giraffe because I ain't getting in a tripod that high.

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          #34
          no problem with what someone hunts... just not for me

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            #35
            Lot of the meat in south Africa is sold to meat markets that then sell to the public. They know we can't bring it back. So they cook some for your meals and then sell the rest. It helps keep hunt costs lower.

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              #36
              I have never done it but I think it is the best thing since sliced bread.....

              Do you know why the wildlife populations in some parts of Africa are increasing? Because some bright person decided to start allowing sport hunting. When they did that it dramatically increased the value of the animals. With the money raised they were able to fight poaching. It also benefited the local people, so they in turn started trying to stop the poaching. It is a renewable resource and everyone has benefited from their hunting....except for poachers.

              -john

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                #37
                Don`t have the money or desire to kill those mentioned. Besides. your house or man cave would have to be the size of a hanger to house all those puppies.

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                  #38
                  but killing some animals seem pointless
                  Sort of like this thread?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Twztid View Post
                    Hunting weird things like giraffe and zebra and elephants wildebeest...just don't see the point in it...perhaps someone could enlighten me on what they do with the meat. I've just never seen people say yummy giraffe steak tonight. I know it's "sport" but you would have to pay serious money to shoot one of thoes things in there wildlife pen I have no problem taking animals to eat and by no way a tree huger but killing some animals seem pointless just to say "you have" killed an elephant with a bow
                    Where oh where should I begin.... Your ignorance (note I said ignorance, not stupidity) of the game animals, operations and societal impacts of the hunting industry in Africa is quite apparent.

                    The food, employment, and financial investment associated with hunting in Africa often represents a large component of these countries' GDP. Many of these countries have limited infrastructure/growth, little to no employment opportunity and thousands of protein deprived people. The hunting industry provides all of these things to individuals.

                    I have been fortunate to hunt in Africa for a total of 107 days (7 trips) in 4 different countries. I have killed 42 large animals repesenting 18 species including plains game, buffalo, elephant, leopard and hippo, and not one was wasted. Either the clients, staff or locals ate some portion or all of these animals. This often included entrails and bones.

                    The money I spent and/or gifted to the operators, staff and families was put to use in many ways. These employees used it to buy essentials for their children, put food on the table, and pay for family members to go to school. The operators/owners used it to pay rents, perform improvements on the property and employ other individuals (professional hunters, trackers, game scouts, camp managers, cooks, maids, mechanics, anti-poaching security teams). How can that be "pointless"?

                    Lastly, I received priceless memories with friends and family doing something we all love and have a passion for. How can that be "pointless"?

                    I strongly encourage you to become more informed and educated about this topic before exposing your ignorance via poorly thought out ponderings and judgemental statements.
                    Last edited by STGS; 10-28-2011, 07:17 AM.

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                      #40
                      I dont have a problem hunting weird things; that is if I could afford it.

                      I know some people that have gone to Africa and "hunted" for days to find 1 thing and that in my eyes is hunting. Like some have said you may track a elephant for miles before you ever see one.

                      On the other hand I knew these people that had more money then they knew what to do with and they went to Africa every year and went hunting; or so they said. I asked them about their hunt and they basically had an elephant or whatever in a pen or tied up in the back of a village. They would then show up shot it and give the meat to the village and they would keep the hide or tusks whatever. Now I think thats just lazy and gives hunting a bad name.

                      If I am ever able to go to africa to go hunting I will go hunting and would not pass it up for anything......as it is a bucket list thing.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by bowhuntntxn View Post
                        the locals utilize every part of the animal for survival. And since you cannot take any meat out of country, that is the best policy. It is cool if you would not do it, because there are plenty who will. Also it is ok that you dont care for it, but do not let your lack of knowledge be your deciding factor here.

                        Do some research and find out if it is good or not, and if it benefits any one in any way. Then make an informed non emotion based decision.
                        x 2

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                          #42
                          Has the OP sobered up yet or miraculously wised up over night??

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                            #43
                            I was raised to only kill what I am gonna eat. I am not after a "trophy" to brag about and put on my wall. I am after meat.

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                              #44
                              One of the best post of the year.

                              -john

                              Originally posted by STGS View Post
                              Where oh where should I begin.... Your ignorance (note I said ignorance, not stupidity) of the game animals, operations and societal impacts of the hunting industry in Africa is quite apparent.

                              The food, employment, and financial investment associated with hunting in Africa often represents a large component of these countries' GDP. Many of these countries have limited infrastructure/growth, little to no employment opportunity and thousands of protein deprived people. The hunting industry provides all of these things to individuals.

                              I have been fortunate to hunt in Africa for a total of 107 days (7 trips) in 4 different countries. I have killed 42 large animals repesenting 18 species including plains game, buffalo, elephant, leopard and hippo, and not one was wasted. Either the clients, staff or locals ate some portion or all of these animals. This often included entrails and bones.

                              The money I spent and/or gifted to the operators, staff and families was put to use in many ways. These employees used it to buy essentials for their children, put food on the table, and pay for family members to go to school. The operators/owners used it to pay rents, perform improvements on the property and employ other individuals (professional hunters, trackers, game scouts, camp managers, cooks, maids, mechanics, anti-poaching security teams). How can that be "pointless"?

                              Lastly, I received priceless memories with friends and family doing something we all love and have a passion for. How can that be "pointless"?

                              I strongly encourage you to become more informed and educated about this topic before exposing your ignorance via poorly thought out ponderings and judgemental statements.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by STGS View Post
                                Where oh where should I begin.... Your ignorance (note I said ignorance, not stupidity) of the game animals, operations and societal impacts of the hunting industry in Africa is quite apparent.

                                The food, employment, and financial investment associated with hunting in Africa often represents a large component of these countries' GDP. Many of these countries have limited infrastructure/growth, little to no employment opportunity and thousands of protein deprived people. The hunting industry provides all of these things to individuals.

                                I have been fortunate to hunt in Africa for a total of 107 days (7 trips) in 4 different countries. I have killed 42 large animals repesenting 18 species including plains game, buffalo, elephant, leopard and hippo, and not one was wasted. Either the clients, staff or locals ate some portion or all of these animals. This often included entrails and bones.

                                The money I spent and/or gifted to the operators, staff and families was put to use in many ways. These employees used it to buy essentials for their children, put food on the table, and pay for family memebers to go to school. The operators/owners used it to pay rents, perform improvements on the property and employ other individuals (professional hunters, trackers, game scouts, camp managers, cooks, maids, mechanics, anti-poaching security teams). How can that be "pointless"?

                                Lastly, I received priceless memories with friends and family doing something we all love and have a passion for. How can that be "pointless"?

                                I strongly encourage you to become more informed and educated about this topic before exposing your ignorance via poorly thought out ponderings and judgemental statements.
                                x100 agree with this.
                                Been there, done that, would go back in a heart beat.
                                Didn't shoot a giraffe but ate some and it was great. Had a lot of people ask me how I could shoot a zebra (they thought they are like horses) not even close, hunted the same stallion for 7 days before I got the shot. Oh yea, zebra is pretty good also.
                                The hunting industry is a lot healthier for Africa than the diamond industry. JMHO

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