Dog electric collar?

[LFD2037]

Long post, sorry. I have a 7.5 month old Catahoula. She will NOT quite jumping on people, especially my 8 year old daughter. My daughter won't even go in the backyard when the dog is out there. I ran her yesterday following my buggy around for about an hour to tire her out. My daughter then came outside & the dog was a bit more behaved but no where near acceptable. Then I put her up for about 2 hours to run errands. I have tried everything from rewarding her for not jumping to kneeing her when she jumps to slapping her when she jumps & then yeasterday to a royal whoopin'. My daughter came in the backyard, when we got back from running errands, where the dog & I were. As soon as the dog saw my daughter she made a dead sprint for her, jumped up on her, knocked her down HARD then proceeded to stomp all over her, including her face. Well, I feel kinda bad but I whoop her good. For the 1st time she actually ran off & stayed under a trailer for the next 3 hours. My daughter had dirt all over her face & a knot above her left eye. I may have over-reacted but I was pi$$*# & my daughter was screaming/crying bloody murder for help. The dog never cried during this whoopin' but I know she felt it as I did in my hand. Now to my point for this post. If she continues to do the jumping all over everybody all the time will a shock collar resolve this issue? if not I don't know what else to do but get rid of her. I've never used one. Thanks & sorry so long winded.

[Grayson]

It typically alters my lab's behavior quite drastically.

[Wall_Hanger]

Instant attitude 180 with my dobie. He picks up really quick though I only used it a handful of times and it was used for helping him learn to come when called not like what you are talking about. My roomste had a catahoula and there was nothing we could do to get her to behave.

[Tubby]

1st of all, I'm sorry your daughter got knocked down and hurt.

2nd, I'm not going to scold you for stomping the dog in the face. That would probably get me permanently banned...

A shock collar is NOT an easy way out for training a dog. It is NOT a crutch. A trainer/owner that does not know the correct way to use a collar will ruin the dog worse than the predicament they started with. Once you break a dog's spirit, they'll probably never trust you again.

Basic obedience will cure more than you think. Teaching and reinforcing "STAY" and "NO" works wonders.

Do some reading/research on obedience training, keep the dog kenneled and train on the leash.

Praise works 100X better than punishment...

[LFD2037]

1st of all, I'm sorry your daughter got knocked down and hurt.

2nd, I'm not going to scold you for stomping the dog in the face. That would probably get me permanently banned...

A shock collar is NOT an easy way out for training a dog. It is NOT a crutch. A trainer/owner that does not know the correct way to use a collar will ruin the dog worse than the predicament they started with. Once you break a dog's spirit, they'll probably never trust you again.

Basic obedience will cure more than you think. Teaching and reinforcing "STAY" and "NO" works wonders.

Do some reading/research on obedience training, keep the dog kenneled and train on the leash.

Praise works 100X better than punishment...

I have read all I could find on the net about obedience starting several weeks prior to getting her up until today. I have stood guard & she does all she can to get around me to jump on whoever is there. She does decent w/"stay" but "NO" means almost nothing to her even though have have used it properly many times.

[Wall_Hanger]

Tubby

I totally agree. When we used our collar like I said it was for field issues. With a dog like a dobie they can be on the other side of the county in no time. So we used the collar to train returns and then had a treat waiting for him when he returned. Collar was quickly retired. He's a fast learner.

[Swampa]

I would do a lot more obedience with a pinch collar to begin, but they are also night and day with electricity.

[Tubby]

quick and simple training techniques

15 minutes a day, training ON LEAD

work on one thing a day. Sit, praise. again, and again. let them walk around.

Stay is easy to teach. Once they've done good with sit, have them facing you while you're knelt down. Begin to slowly step backwards while saying stay, stay, stay. Watch the dog, the MOMENT they start to move to stand up, say HERE. They will come to you. This evokes a positive act rather than a negative one.

Here is taught on lead just like everything else. Have a long lead, 20' or so, let the dog wander out. When they get slack brought up on the lead, say HERE and bring the lead in hand over hand while repeating HERE, HERE, HERE. If the dog tries to fight you, keep pulling them in. When they get to you, praise them. Praise them where if your hunting buddies were there it would embarrass you!

NO can be trained many ways but it's hard to train in a session. Have a few things outside while you're training that the dog doesn't need to get into or do. Have a long lead, 10-20' and let the dog walk up to whatever it is you may have out, once they begin to "screw up", pull back on the lead while saying no. If the dog is close enough to you, use the other end of the lead for a light swat on the nose. NOT a hard pop!

For jumping on folks, it does take some aggressive techniques... If the dog only jumps on your daughter, this may be more difficult. If the dog jumps on you or someone else big enough, while the dog jumps, a quick knee to the chest OR a hand under their chin flipping them over... it won't take long but it IS aggressive but NOT as aggressive as stomping a dog's head...

ALWAYS end a training session on a good note.

Watch their reactions. You can tell when they aren't interested. Make a small obedience command and once it's accomplished, praise, praise and praise some more.

DON'T EVER USE A KENNEL AS A JAIL! A dog considers a kennel as their home, their "safe place".

Good Luck...

[lesson 101]

Be careful with the collar I used one and I guess it offended someone that it was for training purposes ONLY and it really doesnt hit that hard I shocked myself with it just to see how bad it was. It was not as hard as I expected but did work great till it was stolen.

[Razor89]

The shock collars are for putting pressure on the dogs mainly, I have a lab that i bought a shock collar for and got her trained.



TRI-TRONICS. ARE THE BEST IMO.

[cgtarwater]

A shock collar is NOT an easy way out for training a dog. It is NOT a crutch. A trainer/owner that does not know the correct way to use a collar will ruin the dog worse than the predicament they started with. Once you break a dog's spirit, they'll probably never trust you again.

Basic obedience will cure more than you think. Teaching and reinforcing "STAY" and "NO" works wonders.

I agree 100% with this. I will also say that I think E-collars are a great training tool that if used correctly are worth their weight in gold. Basic commands like "Sit, Stay, and No" need to be engraved in this dogs' mind. These commands, IMO, provide the foundation for any other training. If the dog knows these commands and disregards them, you can use the E collar to get her attention.

[Kdog]

I had a similar issue with my 90lb lab and my kids (at 2 and 3 years old at the time). My dog had a really bad habit of getting over excited and knocking them over. I put a shock collar on her with a low setting and it completely fixed the problem. When she got close to the kids in the yard I gave her a correction. After a little while she just avoided them. I used a couple times in the back yard and in the house with the kids around. She picked up on it pretty quick.

I never really saw this as a drastic measure, just a way to control her and teach her without intervening directly. I was kind of worried it would make my dog scared of the kids, but that never happened. Like I said, I only did it a few times.

[Brian H]

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[LFD2037]

Thanks for the tips. BTW, I didn't stomp the dog in the face. I don't want any confusion there.

[Michael Chittum]

Cant set the dog up to fail. If he has access to mess up without being corrected, then he will fail every time. If he is getting to your daughter and jumping on her without you there to fix it. By the time you get there to correct it, its too late.

I would put him on a leash 15 to 20 feet and have him by your side every minute. He cant screw up without you being there to correct it. I do this for the first 6 weeks I have a pup. If I'm not home, there in a kennel so that they can fail.

I caution the shock color. I use this on an aggressive dog that I have. But its not to correct the aggression as this will always be there and cant be trained out. Controlled yes, trained out, nope. When I hit the color and tell her off it is when she is showing the eye to another dog to get her out of the thought process and break that trance she gets in. When she is into it with a dog, I dont dare hit the button, it only makes it worse. I would hate for your dog to be jumping on your daughter and you hit the collar and your dog thinks its your daughter hurting him with the shock. Not worth the risk. I would be dedicated to a leash. I guarantee it will work.

Good Luck