Herbicides

[raiderelkhunter]

pesticide is a broad category to define chemicals to treat non-desirable plants and animals (bugs, too.) herbicides are specific to plants. you have a pesticide license that allows you to use restricted use herbicides.

the key to weed control is to first identify your weeds, then your desirable grasses. 2-4 D won't do crap to nut grass or bahia grass. and, for most summer weeds, now it is too late to spray.

are these weeds around your house? if so, agriculture concentration of 2-4 D is not recommended for residental areas. it will kill ormentantal trees.

It will kill 20 year old pecan trees as well...I had an applicator toast a guys trees on the edge of a cotton field a few years ago...

[Nate Riley]

There is a product at Walmart that is labeled for Southern Lawns. I can't remember the brand, but you can't miss it. If connects to your water hose and works great for a yard.

Grazon

Grazon P+D is 2-4D with picloram, which kills woody plants. We love it for tallow trees in our pastures. It wouldn't be my first choice for a yard.

pesticide is a broad category to define chemicals to treat non-desirable plants and animals (bugs, too.) herbicides are specific to plants. you have a pesticide license that allows you to use restricted use herbicides.

the key to weed control is to first identify your weeds, then your desirable grasses. 2-4 D won't do crap to nut grass or bahia grass. and, for most summer weeds, now it is too late to spray.

are these weeds around your house? if so, agriculture concentration of 2-4 D is not recommended for residental areas. it will kill ormentantal trees.

My experience with it is with hay, but if you want to kill pretty much every grass but the Bermuda, a product called Cimmarron will do it. We use it primarily to kill Bahai in our hay pastures.

We do something else now that is more effective, but you might kill your entire yard with it.

[Randy]

Image, Cimarron, Ally, Grazon p+d

[TxKronik]

Thanks will look into those as well

[Ron]

I use Image during this time of the year. On bermuda grass, just give it a good dose of Round Up late March/early April or a shot of 24-d and it'll keep it from being a problem later. During this time your Bermuda is dormant and when it warms up. it'll do just fine, probably better because it won't be competing with weeds.

[aironeout]

You have to be really careful with some of the products listed above. Some are approved for residential lawns while others are only approved for pasture or rangeland. Below is a link where you can type in the product/brand name and it will bring up the label of that product which will give you all the information you should need. For a residential lawn I would shy away from those that say Danger. Look up a product called Celsius there is a chance it might fill your needs or come close to it.

http://www.cdms.net/LabelsMsds/LMDefault.aspx?t=

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[cosmiccowboy]

I'm confused by this. If you have a license to purchase the rup's, why do you have no knowledge on the chemicals....??? scares me a little dude to be honest with you

Actually, the class for the license doesn't give you any practical knowledge on what to use for what. It focuses more on safety, record keeping, and calculating recommended spray coverages, nozzle formulas, etc.

Agree on the generic 2-4-D (Glyphosate) if you are wanting to kill broad leaf grasses and weeds.

[TxKronik]

Thanks

[raiderelkhunter]

Actually, the class for the license doesn't give you any practical knowledge on what to use for what. It focuses more on safety, record keeping, and calculating recommended spray coverages, nozzle formulas, etc.
Agree on the generic 2-4-D (Glyphosate) if you are wanting to kill broad leaf grasses and weeds.

I know that buddy, I just figured if you had a license to use the stuff you would have a working knowledge of the chemicals..I just assumed he held a RUP license for herbicides and it baffled me that he was asking for advice on the subject until I realized he used his license for pesticides. you missed the point I guess.

[quarterback]

What happened to MSMA anyway? I too found out earlier this summer that it was taken off the market. That stuff works so good in Bermuda.

[cosmiccowboy]

I know that buddy, I just figured if you had a license to use the stuff you would have a working knowledge of the chemicals..I just assumed he held a RUP license for herbicides and it baffled me that he was asking for advice on the subject until I realized he used his license for pesticides. you missed the point I guess.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend. I was surprised when I took the class that there was no guidance on herbicides. The guy teaching the class intentionally avoided direct questions on applications said "talk to your chemical supplier" for application recommendations. Then, I found that my local suppliers weren't much help either. Again, didn't mean to offend.

[Dusty Britches]

You still haven't told us what weeds you want to kill. It is way too late to spray bahia.

[raiderelkhunter]

Sorry, didn't mean to offend. I was surprised when I took the class that there was no guidance on herbicides. The guy teaching the class intentionally avoided direct questions on applications said "talk to your chemical supplier" for application recommendations. Then, I found that my local suppliers weren't much help either. Again, didn't mean to offend.

no offense taken and i hope i did not offend you either sir

[RPB]

I would listen to Randy, he studied this stuff for like 9 or 10 years, he knows what he is talking about. ryan

[fishanhunt]

I have a spraying business and could throw out some suggestions if you will tell me what weeds you are targeting.