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    Had a talk with a game warden (final destination of meat)

    This doesn't make sense to me. I process my own meat which is done in the back shop here at my office. I also have a deep freeze here at my office and after I am through grinding up my deer, it goes into the deep freeze. I figured this would be it's final destination. I also cook up here at the office and use venison a couple times a week. After a talk with a game warden, he said that is not the final destination. The final destination is either a processing facility or your home? In other words, for me to be in the right, I would have to do all of my processing at the house and move my deep freeze there also?

    #2
    Well, if he's gonna get that technical... wouldn't it's "final destination" be the waste water treatment facility?

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      #3
      if that's the definition of final destination then why doesn't it state that in the book??? I call horse padookey on that. And in your case your shop is a processing facility. I've always hated the way the book leaves room for so much interpretation on some things.

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        #4
        LOL, I was thinking the crapper too!

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          #5
          I would think that would be taking the interpretation to the extream. If you process the meat at the office, store it in the freezer at the office, cook it at the office, and eat it at the office, then how could this NOT be the final destination??

          I would probably have to tell the GW (in a very polite way, of course) that this is the home of the deer meat. I would thnk it would not go very far in a court of law if you got hit with a citation. I would make the GW show up and explain himself to the judge.

          Just my opinion, and probably should not be taken to heart on any level...

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            #6
            here is what the book says

            "Final Destination for Pronghorn Antelope, Deer, and Turkey means:
            The permanent residence of the person who takes the antelope, deer, or turkey; the permanent residence of the person who receives the antelope, deer, or turkey or part of the antelope, deer, or turkey; or a cold storage/processing facility."

            since you process your game at your shop (processing facility) and you have a deep freeze (cold storage) it qualifies.

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              #7
              Originally posted by SKLOSS View Post
              here is what the book says

              "Final Destination for Pronghorn Antelope, Deer, and Turkey means:
              The permanent residence of the person who takes the antelope, deer, or turkey; the permanent residence of the person who receives the antelope, deer, or turkey or part of the antelope, deer, or turkey; or a cold storage/processing facility."

              since you process your game at your shop (processing facility) and you have a deep freeze (cold storage) it qualifies.
              I would think you would have to be a liscensed cold storage/processing facilty for that to pertain to you.

              -crb

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                #8
                Originally posted by temple droptine View Post
                I would think you would have to be a liscensed cold storage/processing facilty for that to pertain to you.

                -crb
                not according to this

                Cold Storage or Processing Facility

                A cold storage or processing facility may be established anywhere, including on property where hunting is conducted. It must be a stationary facility designed and constructed for the purpose of processing and/or storing game animals and game birds. A person may place and maintain, or possess, in a cold storage or processing facility, lawfully killed game birds and game animals not in excess of the number permitted to be possessed by law, if:

                the owner, operator, or lessee of the cold storage or processing facility maintains the record book as required by law with the name of all persons placing game animals or game birds in storage, the number and species of all game animals and game birds in storage, and the date each game animal or game bird was placed in storage (information must be entered into the record book before game is placed in storage);
                tags or permits, when applicable, remain attached to birds until the birds are finally processed.
                tags or permits, when applicable, remain attached to deer and pronghorn antelope until the carcass is quartered; and
                if a portion of a carcass is delivered to a cold storage or processing facility, the portion of the carcass must be accompanied by a wildlife resource document unless the wildlife resource has already reached a final destination and has been quartered (see note below: SAVE YOUR TAG).

                Note: The Cold Storage or Processing Facility record book is not required for a private, noncommercial, family-owned cold storage or processing facility unless the facility is located on a hunting lease (see Definitions) and is made available to persons other than the landowner, the landowner's nonpaying family members, or the landowner's nonpaying guests. If the facility is located on property leased for hunting and made available to paying customers, all game animals and game birds placed in the facility must be entered in the cold storage record book. The carcass of a deer or antelope that is properly tagged and placed in a private cold storage or processing facility is not required to be entered in a cold storage record book.

                Game birds or game animals may be stored indefinitely, provided they are maintained in an edible condition. It is unlawful for a hunter or angler, the cold storage facility owner, operator, or lessee, or any other person to store or receive for storage wildlife resources in numbers greater than the legal possession limits or that were not lawfully taken. Free Cold Storage Record Books are available at TPWD Law Enforcement offices.

                NOTE: SAVE YOUR TAG and/or PERMIT. After a wildlife resource reaches its final destination and is finally processed, tagging requirements cease. However, to prevent delay or problems (cold storage or processor refusing to accept meat, etc.) when taking portions of game (meat/head/hide) that you have processed at your home to a commercial processor or taxidermist, simply attach the appropriate hunting license tag and/or permit or a wildlife resource document to the portion of game.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Legacy-TX View Post
                  Well, if he's gonna get that technical... wouldn't it's "final destination" be the waste water treatment facility?
                  beat me too it. There are just too many avenues for error on our part and we'll never be right.

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                    #10
                    I stand corrected

                    Looks to me that i am wrong, and you are right. It would be covered as a family operated cold storage processing facility. Would he still need a tag or wildlife resouce document to take it to his house then?
                    -crb

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                      #11
                      I am pretty sure the Game Warden is correct. Either your house, or the processing facility of your choice. The ONLY thing that keeps you from being within the law is that you do your processing and meet storage away from your house. I am sure there is a reason for them ONLY wanting it at your permanent residence

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by temple droptine View Post
                        Looks to me that i am wrong, and you are right. It would be covered as a family operated cold storage processing facility. Would he still need a tag or wildlife resouce document to take it to his house then?
                        -crb
                        no

                        After a wildlife resource reaches its final destination and is finally processed, tagging requirements cease.

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                          #13
                          wow

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                            #14
                            There's always gonna be some loophole somewhere. Kinda like when a known criminal gets off due to a technicality. Sometimes you just can't win. I would think, that a FAIR, HONEST, GW wouldn't push the issue unless he had something to prove or otherwise. Just my .02$.

                            skooter

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                              #15
                              He is just giving you a hard time

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