poison on lease, need help

[bowtecmike]

Govt. trapper just set cyanide baits on a friends lease. Anybody have experience with this, I have several questions.
1) we know that anything that eats the cyanide will be dead real quick, and pretty near so...coyote eats bait and dies, hog eats coyote, hunter takes hog, butchers and feeds family what happens?
2)If said hog only rubs on poisoned animal, will poison be health risk to hunters
3)If you kill and process a hog, what exactly would you look for for signs of possible poisoning..ie liver spleen gall bladder?
any and all advice would be appriceated
mike

[JeffJ]

I have been told that the "second generation" wont have any effects. I asked about buzzards that were eating the yotes. That being said I wont even touch a coyote that has been hit. I had one dead in the middle of one of our roads. Found some old rope, caught him by a back leg and drug the whole deal rope and all into the nearest cedar pile.

[Low Fence]

Dont think hog will ever eat a coyote.....a buzzard wont hardly eat a coyote (ever notice how long they stay on road). If a buzzard eats coyote THEN it MIGHT DIE, and nothing will eat a buzzard (MAYBE worms).

But in a 1 in a million chance....... I have no idea and I am allowed to use cyanide.

[bowhuntntxn]

hog will not likely eat dead coyote. if so, hog dies and you will not eat dead hog laying out. Plus these trappers have been doing this for years, and I have never heard of a hunter becoming ill or dying from any kind of contact. Just dont go around the bait sites, and let the trapper remove all the dead animals.

[baseball4]

Dont think hog will ever eat a coyote.....a buzzard wont hardly eat a coyote (ever notice how long they stay on road). If a buzzard eats coyote THEN it MIGHT DIE, and nothing will eat a buzzard (MAYBE worms).

But in a 1 in a million chance....... I have no idea and I am allowed to use cyanide.

lol a buzzard will eat anything as long as it stinks....

[Low Fence]

lol a buzzard will eat anything as long as it stinks....

You can drag 2 dead calves off. 1 of them with antibiotics in its system, with 200 buzzards above them they WILL NOT eat the medicated one. Beats anything I've ever seen. Seen em peck the eyes out of a yote but never sit on top and eat it.

[JeffJ]

You can drag 2 dead calves off. 1 of them with antibiotics in its system, with 200 buzzards above them they WILL NOT eat the medicated one. Beats anything I've ever seen. Seen em peck the eyes out of a yote but never sit on top and eat it.

Interesting...I wonder if they can smell something extra funky? We had cyanide from Nov-April and we killed 10-12 yotes during that time. Since then we havent seen any until two weeks ago. We called the trapper and he is setting them again this week. We will leave them until we take the cows off.

PS- We are currently having our best fawn crop in six or seven years. Usually we will find a handful dead with buzzards on them...this year we havent found one..

[KrisAlles]

seen buzzards eat yotes, and have pictures of hogs eating dead coyotes, as well as coyotes eating coyotes...when your hungry your hungry. As far as the poison though i have no idea. It's more fun the call the little dogs in then have them die unseen(in my opinion)

[huntresss]

As far as I know, cyanide baits are not eaten, but rather discharged into the animals face. The cyanide is blown into their mouth/nose and they inhale it, killing them almost instantly. I don't believe there's any residual effect, although I think I'd personally avoid eating the dead yote

[eradicator]

Be careful where you walk!!

[Coup de Grace]

all varmints ,cats, foxes, coons, possums, coyote gone after govt trapper...

[Low Fence]

The traps I was showed to use actually shot the poison into there mouth (spring).....they usually dont go 10-15yrds

[Bones]

As far as I know, cyanide baits are not eaten, but rather discharged into the animals face. The cyanide is blown into their mouth/nose and they inhale it, killing them almost instantly. I don't believe there's any residual effect, although I think I'd personally avoid eating the dead yote

Winner! In the case of M44's (USDA Trappers cyanide bombs), The bait is the "trip wire", not the poison. Cyanide gas stored under pressure and released into the offenders face when the "bomb" is tripped. There is no residual, secondary or latent effect from cyanide gas. The M44's set locations will be clearly marked, by the trapper, for your avoidance.

Steve

[rdwhunter]

As far as I know, cyanide baits are not eaten, but rather discharged into the animals face. The cyanide is blown into their mouth/nose and they inhale it, killing them almost instantly. I don't believe there's any residual effect, although I think I'd personally avoid eating the dead yote

It is my impression that it is a gas and any bait is used to trigger the gas, but I have not witnessed this.

Any first hand knowledge would be great.

[bowtecmike]

Follow up question, will hogs eat the baits? They are the ones that shoot the poison into the mouth, but have some type of meat (I think) for bait on the trigger