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Originally posted by JSAPP View PostI think your numbers are a little off. I am a directional driller and I have seen all the work leave the Barnett for the Haynesville. We pick up more rigs every month over there. We are drilling the directional section just as quick as the Barnett. I does take them longer to get to kick off point. Over all it is quite a bit more profitable.
The average days to drill a Haynesville is around 38. The average days to drill in the Barnett is around 17. Also, those laterals in the Barnett drill much faster than the Haynesville wells... I've seen average ROP's upwards of 80-90 FPH, vs about 25-30 FPH in the Haynesville.
Also, it's not just the days... what hole size are you drilling down to KOP in the barnett? Most of those are 8 3/4" and they're not even setting a string of intermediate casing after the vertical section. The haynesville wells require larger hole sizes (most are 9 7/8" to KOP), additional strings of casing to be ran, and most haynesville wells are oil based mud instead of water based mud.
The frac jobs are also more expensive in the Haynesville.
Figure figure a rough average of 70K spread rate, plus larger and additional casing strings, plus oil based mud, plus sub $3 gas that isn't hedged by many operators (or hedges that are about to expire), and I can promise you those wells aren't all that great right now...
increasing rig count doesn't automatically mean increased profits...break even on these Haynesville wells is around $3.50 mcf. And that's assuming a well comes on at 8 mmcf/day.Last edited by kyle1974; 08-28-2009, 08:13 AM.
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I am a drilling fluids consultant (mud engineer) and have been lucky. I am currently sitting a well in south Louisiana and going to George West after this one. I have had another great year and am in great shape to take some time off for deer hunting. We have been doing turnkey jobs and capitalize on the lower and more negotiable price of services. Day rates have fallen substantially.
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Originally posted by kyle1974 View PostThe only reason they are being drilled is to secure leases, and also minimize losses due to the fact that most rigs are still under contract from last year. So we can sit around and pay day rates for rigs to stack in the weeds, or put them to work....
The average days to drill a Haynesville is around 38. The average days to drill in the Barnett is around 17. Also, those laterals in the Barnett drill much faster than the Haynesville wells... I've seen average ROP's upwards of 80-90 FPH, vs about 25-30 FPH in the Haynesville.
Also, it's not just the days... what hole size are you drilling down to KOP in the barnett? Most of those are 8 3/4" and they're not even setting a string of intermediate casing after the vertical section. The haynesville wells require larger hole sizes (most are 9 7/8" to KOP), additional strings of casing to be ran, and most haynesville wells are oil based mud instead of water based mud.
The frac jobs are also more expensive in the Haynesville.
Figure figure a rough average of 70K spread rate, plus larger and additional casing strings, plus oil based mud, plus sub $3 gas that isn't hedged by many operators (or hedges that are about to expire), and I can promise you those wells aren't all that great right now...
increasing rig count doesn't automatically mean increased profits...break even on these Haynesville wells is around $3.50 mcf. And that's assuming a well comes on at 8 mmcf/day.
I do agree on most points, but we are drilling the horizontal sections at 80 to 120 ft/hr in the haynesville, easily as fast as hte barnett. And the wells I have gotten gotten feedback from are coming in closer to 10 mmcf/day. With nat.gas prices the way they are there is no doubt that most of the drilling done anywhere right now is for lease contracts and/or rig contracts. We are looking at some rough times ahead if the prices don't show some real improvement.
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We are drilling with Southwestern, Cabot, XTO, and Common Resources over in Nac, San Augustine, and Shelby Counties. The verdict is still out on the H ville, but we are drilling James Lime wells that work all day long. The Travis Peak drilling in this area has slowed, but at $6/mcf I think we would be real happy. Rolling with the punches right now.
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Originally posted by tookeymonster View Postsome of the upswing is due to the fact that leases are running out and they need to be drilled. But they are not all beeing produced they will drill them and cap em.
Not to mention that many of the operators have their gas hedged so they are actually not selling their gas for $3.00 it is more like $7-$10mcf. If we still have $3.00 gas when the hedges run out they will be singing a different tune
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Originally posted by Strong Slinger View PostDoes anyone know of any Gas compression companies are looking for field techs or operators
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Originally posted by Peyton View PostSt Mary just spudded a well on the La Bandera about a half mile south of us!!
Anybody know where to find info?????
If you want to pay to use a site, Drillinginfo is a good one.
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