Arrow tail kicking right

[Dchilds]

I'm experiencing a tuning issue and I'm not sure what's causing it. I have not bare shaft tuned yet and was wondering if it is something that can be corrected by adjusting brace height.

I'm shooting a 40# Samick Sage and Arrow Dynamic Traditional Lite Arrows cut to 29.5". According to the dynamic spine calculator, I needed 200 gr up front to even out the dynamic spine. I bought the arrows used so this was cheaper than a new set of arrows. When reading the numbers, remember the arrows are tapered and the instructions tell me to take away about 2# of dynamic arrow spine for tapered shafts.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29760578/12.02.14%20DSC.xlsx

Long story short, I'm noticing that the tail of the arrow seems to be kicking out to the right after release. It isn't affecting the arrow flight a ton but the erratic flight is noticeable. Anyone have any solutions/insight? What is this a sign of?

Thanks in advance,
Derek

[brent.westbrook]

Assuming your right handed, your arrows are stiff, and if you increase point weight that will weaken your arrows.

[caughtandhobble]

Check this out, it has helped me plenty before I knew about TBH.

http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm

[bbs383ci]

Check this out, it has helped me plenty before I knew about TBH.

http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm

have used this many times

[Ron]

Check this out, it has helped me plenty before I knew about TBH.

http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm

Yep.

[Ol Man]

I'm experiencing a tuning issue and I'm not sure what's causing it. I have not bare shaft tuned yet and was wondering if it is something that can be corrected by adjusting brace height.

I'm shooting a 40# Samick Sage and Arrow Dynamic Traditional Lite Arrows cut to 29.5". According to the dynamic spine calculator, I needed 200 gr up front to even out the dynamic spine. I bought the arrows used so this was cheaper than a new set of arrows. When reading the numbers, remember the arrows are tapered and the instructions tell me to take away about 2# of dynamic arrow spine for tapered shafts.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29760578/12.02.14%20DSC.xlsx

Long story short, I'm noticing that the tail of the arrow seems to be kicking out to the right after release. It isn't affecting the arrow flight a ton but the erratic flight is noticeable. Anyone have any solutions/insight? What is this a sign of?

Thanks in advance,
Derek

I believe the -2# is for tapered wood arrows not carbon... carbon arrows will still spine the same. You could increase your side plate and it would help a bit.

[Bisch]

This could be a spine issue (stiff arrow) OR it could be a form issue. If you are doing something weird on your release you could be making the arrow do this. I have seen this issue with new shooters before. I would try to paper tune and see if adding more weight up front helps to correct it. If you paper tune and nothing changes in the tear even though you are changing bow or arrow variables, then it is probably you and not the set-up.

Chances are also that if you have not tuned (either bare shaft or paper) and only relied on the calculator, then you are still a bit off and need to do some fine tuning.

Bisch

[bubinga]

This could be a spine issue (stiff arrow) OR it could be a form issue. If you are doing something weird on your release you could be making the arrow do this. I have seen this issue with new shooters before. I would try to paper tune and see if adding more weight up front helps to correct it. If you paper tune and nothing changes in the tear even though you are changing bow or arrow variables, then it is probably you and not the set-up.

Chances are also that if you have not tuned (either bare shaft or paper) and only relied on the calculator, then you are still a bit off and need to do some fine tuning.

Bisch

This. Form is often overlooked when dealing with these issues. Not saying it is a form issue in this particular case, but it is something to be aware of. You can drive yourself crazy messing with your setup/tune trying to get that perfect flight and come to find out it was actually a release or torque issue the whole time. Don't ask me how I know this If you read the link provided above he will explain that this why he advocates the bare shaft planing method over the bare shaft nock sticky outey method. When I first switched to the bare shaft method that Adcock advocates, things just sorta fell into place. Now I primarily use the paper tunning method. Hope you get it figured out.

[JEFFRO]

if you have a vidio camera film your self shooting. set the camera stright off the bow side and also a little behind you will be able to see your arms, set, release and followthough.

[meangene1969]

X2

[Dchilds]

Update:

So, I don't know how I messed this up but the tail was actually kicking left, not right. I will try to video tape my form when I have the resources. I think this could help immensely.

One thing that has helped correct the problem A LOT is I refletched my arrows with 3 5"right helical. I barely notice any flight problems now. I bought these arrows used and they were already fletched upon arrival so I was just shooting them the way they came. They happened to be fletched in an odd way- 4 4" feathers, not equally spaced. Two close groups of two feathers on each side of the shaft. They were also fletched straight, not helical. I think contact with the riser was the main cause of the problem. I went out and tested my newly fletched arrows and they really do seem to fly a lot straighter.

Does it seem logical that the fletching can have that big of an impact on flight?

Btw, I'm a bit of a tinkerer.