fred bear.

[Deb]

Besides the holding a little longer Daniel, you might want to concentrate on timing. It's not mentioned much but can help with your accuracy. It is where you get used to looking at the target, drawing, hit anchor, hold and release with the same timing each shot. Howard Hill talked about it briefly in one of his books. It is one more little thing that adds consistency to our shooting.

Also, as Deb mentioned, I was the one talking about healthy form and Howard Hill had it down perfect. He was still shooting very heavy weight bows into his 70's. Study his form as closely as you can. I had bow arm health issues in my early forties and it helped me immensely. I am 62 and still shoot bows into the 70's with no problems.

Two things to pay close attention to are the bent bow arm and the trunk of the body being in line with the target. Howard's bow arm is bent downward, not outward like most every one does it. With the side bent arm, upon release, the arm wants to go to the side and out of alignment. With the arm bent downward, at release, the bow arm straightens in alignment. It also puts a lot less strain on the arm.

Trunk alignment is the most important part of your form. If your alignment, shoulder to shoulder, is not pointed at the target, it can cause almost any problem from bow torque to a flying release.

So check Howard's form as closely as you can. It will benefit you greatly and keep you shooting pain free longer in your life.

X a million. Timing and alignment is critical. Shooting this style is a rhythm thing. He also stressed that every shot starts at the ground. Line those feet up.

[triffnix]

Daniel, awile back there was a thread about Howard Hill's healthy form. Sure you are not thinking of Howard Hill? 3Rivers has a dvd. This is how I learned to shoot.

oh my fault your are right i was thinking about howard hill, not fred...

I went through alot of frustration trying to find a secondary anchor point. Then I was experimenting with three under ( I had been shooting split finger) and found that when my middle finger touches the corner of my mouth, the cock feather just barely touches the tip of my nose. My anchor is now much more repeatable and consistent than it was before.

I already played around with 3 under a year or two ago but didnt like it too much. i think ill stay with split finger, but still i have to change alot og things...

Sounds like your in a rut! May need to put the bow down for a bit! Was your anchor not working or you just trying something different? When I struggle go to blind close range practice. With eyes closed work on form always pulls me back out of it. Hope you get it figured out!!!

Im struggling with form since i shoot but now i finally decided to work on it harder than ever. I just want to get a nice and solid form and more accuracy. im shooting for some years now and i think after that long time of shooting it should be way better im a bit frustrated right now...

I went thru that 20 years ago.
I had to start counting to 3 after I reached full draw to break myself from shooting too quick

i already tried that and it helped a bit. also shooting the wheelie bow from time to time makes me anchor longer, and concentrat more.

Besides the holding a little longer Daniel, you might want to concentrate on timing. It's not mentioned much but can help with your accuracy. It is where you get used to looking at the target, drawing, hit anchor, hold and release with the same timing each shot. Howard Hill talked about it briefly in one of his books. It is one more little thing that adds consistency to our shooting.

Also, as Deb mentioned, I was the one talking about healthy form and Howard Hill had it down perfect. He was still shooting very heavy weight bows into his 70's. Study his form as closely as you can. I had bow arm health issues in my early forties and it helped me immensely. I am 62 and still shoot bows into the 70's with no problems.

Two things to pay close attention to are the bent bow arm and the trunk of the body being in line with the target. Howard's bow arm is bent downward, not outward like most every one does it. With the side bent arm, upon release, the arm wants to go to the side and out of alignment. With the arm bent downward, at release, the bow arm straightens in alignment. It also puts a lot less strain on the arm.

Trunk alignment is the most important part of your form. If your alignment, shoulder to shoulder, is not pointed at the target, it can cause almost any problem from bow torque to a flying release.

So check Howard's form as closely as you can. It will benefit you greatly and keep you shooting pain free longer in your life.

That was very interesting Draco! Thanks alot for your advices! I think my trunk alignment is not the problem that should be ok.. But i think timing is a big issue and i also at the moment i have a hard time pulling the bow back and keep it there.

Also i changed how i pull the bow back.
I used to straighten my bowarm and only pull the bow with my other arm back... caused some pain in the right shoulder...

Now i do in a different way. hard to explain but i somehow rotate my trunk, push with my left and pull with my right.. The way mike javi cooper explained it to me while we were at bobs place..

its feels like i pull with totally different muskels now?

So at first i need to order that howard hill dvd, and study his form

I still cant understand how someone can pull bows in the 70's... maybe someday ill also want to be able to pull such bows... (is there a secret behind it or just shooting a long time and go up step by step?)

Thank you all for your help!
Daniel