Scoring input needed

[huntinpool]

For the Archery Festival we are considering using ALL scoring rings for the 3D shoot (14-12-11-10-8-5-0 ) to help eliminate ties.

Please give input so we can finalize the details for the flyers.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT


Question : Do you feel this is an Advantage for the average Joe that just shoots at the middle of the target and catches 12's? Over a top shooter that shoots at 12's and misses them?

Would center 12 only be more popular scoring method?

Would scoring High and Low 12's be more popular scoring method?

[Bisch]

I would vote for: center 12,10,8,5,0. 14's if you want because the wheel guys might want to shoot at them. I don't know many trad guys that would shoot at them on purpose. As long as you have the 12's and the 8's you are not likely to have too many ties.

Bisch

[rubydog]

From a trad point of view I am with Bisch with one exception. I say ditch the 14 all together. With all those scoring rings it makes it a poke and hope shoot. Poke an arrow in the kill and hope you got a high score. My .04 ( thats .02 cents factoring in inflation)

[ShaBow]

From a trad point of view I am with Bisch with one exception. I say ditch the 14 all together. With all those scoring rings it mskes it a poke and hope shoot. Poke an arrow in the kill and hope you got a high score. My .04 ( thats .02 cents factoring in inflation)

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[huntinpool]

My thinking on the scoring was to give the YOUTH, TRAD and WOMEN an oppurtunity to score as well as some of the TOP open shooters in the shootdown.
The 14 will be there regardless. Our main concern is what to do in the 10 mring. Which scores would you like count?
KEEP the input coming. WE want this to be a great event for years to come , and would like to get it right the first time

[Txnrog]

If I am reading you right, you're talking about scoring both 12's on a round? Doesn't seem right to me - you have more surface area scored as a 12 than an 11. I would pick one ring within the 10 ring and give it a 12 score. Center, high, low. The distance should really equalize the field somewhat between the Trad & Compound shooters. If you want higher scores for trad - keep them within 20. Scores start to spread out when you stretch it out to 30.

[meangene1969]

I say all scoring. The eleven in most cases is larger than either 12. All scoring will allow the average shooter to challenge for the win. I can't tell you how many times I've heard a guy make a bad shot and say I wish we were counting 14s.

[fletcherfor2]

My input (for what it's worth) is center 12/10/8/5/0 for Traditional. The compounders can shoot whatever ASA scoring system they want.

If your objective is to somehow have compound competing with Traditional, then make the compounders conform to our scoring with only 10/8/5/0 (rather than the other way around). With sights and let-offs it's easier for them to actually hit a high 12 or 14 intentionally. It would be more of a level playing field since we would both have a more equal chance of hitting a 10 as the high score.

YMMV

[RickBarbee]

I agree with Bisch.

Lord have mercy. 8^)

[rubydog]

I say all scoring. The eleven in most cases is larger than either 12. All scoring will allow the average shooter to challenge for the win. I can't tell you how many times I've heard a guy make a bad shot and say I wish we were counting 14s.

So you want to reward an average shooter with a win for making a bad shot? I thought that was why you have a competition as to allow the cream to rise to the top.

[RickBarbee]

Best shot to me has always equated to - closest to the middle.

I've never agreed with the 14 ring placement, but hey - thats why I don't make the decisions.

12-10-8-5-0 with the 12 rind dead center is in my opinion by far the best scoring format there is.

I would like to see them place the 14 in the middle if they are going to continue using it, and do a

from center out 14-12-10-8-5-0

[RickBarbee]

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So you want to reward an average shooter with a win for making a bad shot? I thought that was why you have a competition as to allow the cream to rise to the top.

^^^^This

OMG I'm agreeing with rubydog.

Wonder if I need to upgrade my life insurance?

[Bisch]

Best shot to me has always equated to - closest to the middle.

I've never agreed with the 14 ring placement, but hey - thats why I don't make the decisions.

12-10-8-5-0 with the 12 rind dead center is in my opinion by far the best scoring format there is.

I would like to see them place the 14 in the middle if they are going to continue using it, and do a

from center out 14-12-10-8-5-0

The reason the 14's are where they are is to make you gamble to shoot at them. If you miss most 14 rings by 1/4" the wrong way you get a 5. I can see why the wheel guys would like them, bu like I said above, I don't know many trad guys that would aim at them on purpose.

This shoot is, from what I read, for all shooters so there has got to be things that everybody likes.

JMHO

Bisch

[bubinga]

I agree with Bisch and Rick. Make the IBO 11 the 12 then 10-8-5-0. I am not a fan of the 14, but don't really care that much. If you must have a 14 I say put about 6 inches under the target b/c that is about where I will be hitting with my new "heavy" Africa arrows I will be shooting this year

[meangene1969]

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So you want to reward an average shooter with a win for making a bad shot? I thought that was why you have a competition as to allow the cream to rise to the top.

rubydog this is a fun shoot but if a guy has only been shooting for a few months it would be fun to watch him win. The idea is to get as many as possible to shoot (especially new shooters). I agree with y'alls thought if we were talking about and everyday tourney. But this is only a ten target shoot to qualify for a shoot down. It will cut way down on ties. The goal is to win your class and make it to the shoot down. As bisch stated the fourteen is like gambling.