TBoT Arrow Question

[RickBarbee]

In the shooting classes that are classified "wood arrows only", would the arrows be disqualified if they were footed with aluminum?

I've often wondered about that, but have never posed the question, or tried to get it by.

Since it is still technically a wood arrow I don't know why it wouldn't be allowed.

You just got a woodies with fancy point, and nock receivers.

I've built lots of wood arrows over the years where I footed them with aluminum arrow on the front for screw point adapters, but I have also footed the nock ends also.

Just wondered.

Thanks in advance for an answer.

Rick

[Deb]

I don't know what the rules say, Rick, but I'm becoming very concerned about you. It seems like you are determined to get lynched. I think they are allowed if you pay a double shoot fee.

[mhundt]

In the shooting classes that are classified "wood arrows only", would the arrows be disqualified if they were footed with aluminum?

I've often wondered about that, but have never posed the question, or tried to get it by.

Since it is still technically a wood arrow I don't know why it wouldn't be allowed.

You just got a woodies with fancy point, and nock receivers.

I've built lots of wood arrows over the years where I footed them with aluminum arrow on the front for screw point adapters, but I have also footed the nock ends also.

Just wondered.

Thanks in advance for an answer.

Rick

Todd Pool had a question earlier this season about whether you could use binos at TBoT shoots, so I suggested he email Brenda Stein, TBoT Secretary. I do the "fancy" TBoT score results she posts on the site, so I emailed her to ask, too (answer: yes, but not while standing at the stake).
Anyway, you might just email her to ask. She'll bring it to the next TBoT meeting if she doesn't already know the answer. rublettestein@aol.com

Here's the link to the TBoT equipment guidelines:

http://tbot.org/equipment_guidelines.html

It doesn't say anything about "footed with aluminum" being DISallowed, so....anyway, ask Brenda!

[huntinpool]

My guess would be that if it has anything other than wood that it would be an OPEN arrow. Although an all wood arrow is NOT Allowed in Open class( for some reason )

[atombomb]

so the wood arrows have wood nocks also... and all glue on tips... that sounds
like a cool class to shoot..

[RickBarbee]

I Know I Know - everyone already thinks I'm nutz.

Now they just think I have gone completely, and totally stark raving mad.

I think if memory servers, screw point adapters are allowed, so this isn't any different except I am making my own, but I wanted to ask if for no other reason than to see some ripples.

[LostHawg]

I don't think you're nuts. I think you're a swell guy. (now, when were you taking me hunting?)

[RickBarbee]

The reason I ask is this - it is tough for me to find wood arrows that are stiff enough to shoot, and when I do find them they weigh as much as a fiberglass fishing arrow,

but

some years ago I discovered a way to foot the shafts with aluminum, and increase their dynamic spine. Of course this also allows me to use screw in points, and snap in nocks, but the shaft/arrow is still wood.

[RickBarbee]

Tracy, when you wanna go ?

[fletcherfor2]

My guess would be that if it has anything other than wood that it would be an OPEN arrow. Although an all wood arrow is NOT Allowed in Open class( for some reason )

Wood arrows were allowed in the North Texas TBoT shoots in the open class until last year. I suppose the reasoning was that wood arrows are "inferior" (meaning they are not as consistent arrow-to arrow) and therefore it was ok to shoot them against the superior carbon and aluminum arrows in the same open class).

I feel like North Texas is the most prolific (sponsors the most TBoT shoots) in the state. I don't know what the other regional TBoT reps did (or do).

I went along (not knowing any better) and shot the same woods in both wood and open classes for the first two years that I tried to compete in TBoT. When someone at CCBA decided it was ok to shoot Longbow in the Recurve class for the same reason (inferior equipment), I looked up the rules and pointed them out to Bud and Todd. By the same rationale, I pointed out the rules regarding arrows for each class.

The North Texas TBoT reps (don't know about the rest of the regions) have decided for the last two years that ONLY aluminum and carbon arrows are to be shot in open class. The rationale is that you cannot shoot the same arrows in both classes because you need to make a compensation in your shooting for the two different arrows for the two different classes (and not just shoot the same arrow in both classes).

Yeah, I know this was long. I hope it explains the rationale.

And no Rick, it does not answer your question (other than you can't shoot your hybrid arrows in BOTH classes).

[loco cacahuate]

I hope we don't get into the rules so much that TBoT ends up with ASA type rules. One of the big reasons I shoot trad, is the simplicity.
In a past life, I refereed football. They told us 3 things to look for in calling fouls
1. Did it affect the play?
2. Could someone have gotten hurt?
3. Did someone gain an advantage?

I do not like people pushing the limits just because they can.

[fletcherfor2]

Thank you Wesley. I admire you. You always display a lot of horse sense.

[RickBarbee]

LOL Wess, I'm not trying to push the limits.

Whens the last time you saw me shoot woodies?

I was just curious if I could do it that way, and they still be considered woods.

Was thinking about building up some 90/95s that I have, and stiffening them up with the footing, and shooting them in the wood class, but I'm fine with sticking to my carbons in the open class.

Edit:

Oh, and P.S.
I agree whole heartedly with you about the rules.

[huntinpool]

Yet someone shooting SENIOR can shoot both of their rounds with wood. Just handicap the younger shooters by not letting them do it. That is just one rule I will never understand, If it is Open then why ain't it Open. I don't shoot woodies as well as carbon or alum. but know a few shooters who shoot great scores with woodies and could compete in Open with their scores. Rick , if it made out of wood I would shoot it until they ban it.

[meangene1969]

Rick shoot them! I don't think anyone will say anything. In fact post a pic of one of yours I want to see one, great idea! The woodies not allowed in the open class is crazy.