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    What would be an example of a non muzzleloader

    Per this TPWD definition.



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    #2
    They talking about black powder pistols with the cap and ball sentence?

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      #3
      Originally posted by flywise View Post
      They talking about black powder pistols with the cap and ball sentence?
      Exactly. TPWD doesn't consider a cap and ball revolver a muzzleloader. One can argue it is an it isn't but what they're getting at is for you to use a muzzleloading rifle, most of the time that's going to be one shot.

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        #4
        Black powder sharps or any black powder gun that loads from the breech.

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          #5
          Originally posted by wilded View Post
          Black powder sharps or any black powder gun that loads from the breech.
          I didn’t think about Sharps rifles.

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            #6
            The early Sharps were not cartridge fed. There were also others but I don't remember the names.

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              #7
              Originally posted by wilded View Post
              The early Sharps were not cartridge fed. There were also others but I don't remember the names.
              Gets kind of confusing when you think of a black powder cartridge (Ball and powder wrapped in paper as one unit) So theoretically you could be shooting a cartridge out of a muzzleloader

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                #8
                Originally posted by flywise View Post
                They talking about black powder pistols with the cap and ball sentence?
                Yes, there are also the revolving cap and ball carbines as well. If they didn’t put that language in there you’d have some people out there with those being able to shoot 5 shots defeating the purpose of muzzleloader season.

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                  #9
                  For the purpose of this discussion and description provided by the OP.

                  Any weapon that is not loaded thru the muzzle.
                  Last edited by Jon Stewart; 01-05-2023, 04:14 PM.

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                    #10
                    The other thing is that black powder revolvers or single shot pistols are not serious hunting tools. I’m not saying you couldn’t kill a deer with one but everything would have to be close and perfect. They were made for self defense. (Although I’m quite sure Josey Wales could fan ‘em down)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by diamond10x View Post
                      Yes, there are also the revolving cap and ball carbines as well. If they didn’t put that language in there you’d have some people out there with those being able to shoot 5 shots defeating the purpose of muzzleloader season.

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                        #12
                        yep, sharps, remington rolling block, spencer, etc.
                        1836, 1858, 1860....any Colt, Remington, revolver.

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                          #13
                          I have several black powder 45/70 fired casings and just a few live rounds that are rim fire. Found out on the desert with a detector. Which would not be legal to use according to the description posted.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jon Stewart View Post
                            For the purpose of this discussion and description provided by the OP.

                            Any weapon that is not loaded thru the muzzle.


                            This ^^^^^*


                            I was gonna buy a black powder civil war replica pistol to hunt with a few years ago then realized I couldn’t use it during muzzleloader season.






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                            Last edited by AntlerCollector; 01-05-2023, 04:35 PM.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by jdg13 View Post
                              One can argue it is an it isn't .

                              If you don’t load it down the muzzle then you can’t argue anything

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