If you were going to build a suppressed hunting AR....

[muzzlebrake]

Two two two fiddy and green box 55gr psp core-lokts right thru the lungs. Highest percentage kill shot a kid can have. My brother's kids stacked them up like cord wood with a Remington 788 when they were little starting about 6 yrs old.

[Mike D]

If you were going to build a suppressed hunting AR....

Two two two fiddy and green box 55gr psp core-lokts right thru the lungs. Highest percentage kill shot a kid can have. My brother's kids stacked them up like cord wood with a Remington 788 when they were little starting about 6 yrs old.

That would have to go in an AR10 and would be a one off.


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[DuramaxDude]

6.5 Grendel. Last year I got my 11yr old stepson one and he is scared to death to shoot anything because his dad was the type to give him a 12ga as a little tike and say shoot. He loves that grendel. Its a ruger american ranch and I put a muzzle break on it so its like shooting a 22. In my neck of the woods finding the rifle and now the ammo hasn't been a problem. So far he has shot 4 deer and a hog with it. His 8pt last year was 150lbs it ran 80yds before it piled up dead and none of the rest made it that far.

[DaveC]

6.8spc, Grendel, 350L. In that order, I have shot animals with all 3 suppressed. Honestly with the amount of felt recoil that the suppressor takes away, I would go with a youth friendly caliber in a bolt gun. The AR can have a few too many moving parts for a kid to safely operate in a blind.

For example, my son started hunting with an AR in 25-45 Sharps at 9 years old. One hunt, he was trying to be quiet when he loaded his gun and he didn't pull the charging handle all the way back which kept the bolt from closing all the way. The bolt looked to be closed but the lugs didn't lock up and the case hadn't seated against the bolt face. Sure enough, a nice cull buck walks out at about fifty and the gun went click when he pulled the trigger. Needless to say, there is no quiet way to cycle an AR in a deer blind and everything ran off. With a bolt gun this would have never happened, and if it did you can cycle a bolt without making a bunch of racket.

My son is 11 now and shoots a 7mm-08. My 12 y/o daughter shoots a suppressed 308.

I like the bolt gun thoughts.
My son didn’t take to the AR’s action cycling when he was real young- it was spooking him.
I bought a youth stocked 7mm-08 and he handled it much better.
As time went on he was successful with both styles or rifle.

The 7-08 was restocked with a Boyds thumbhole and is now his go to rifle as a young adult.

A lot of kids can shoot an AR just fine out the gate. Mine could make it go bang, but his groups were lacking- standing off to the side I could see the problem.


Besides all that. As to the 6.8- I have a few…..and they have caused many a death…but 6.8 ammo isn’t exactly on the shelf anymore like it once was.

Not sure about the other flavors, but strolling the ammo isle at Academy or Wally world might help decide which has OTC ammo available right now.


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[imyomama]

i've built a grendel , a 6.8spc , a 7.62x39 , a few 300 blk , a few 556 and a 338 specter.

out of the bunch , my favorite is still the 300blk . most versatile, best suppressed performance and best to equal feeding reliability as the 556.

the grendel is 24" to take advantage of the ballistics of the round .. too long with can on , too loud without .. it mostly sits
the 6.8 16" wilson combat barrel may be the most accurate of the bunch but i rarely use it .. might go to #1 if i used it more. that means reloading a big batch ... been lazy.
7.62x39.. built it to shoot cheap ... before Brandon decided to ban russian ammo .. hit and miss on accuracy , but i shoot cheapest crap i find ... also picky feeding...
338 specter ... 338 lapua bullets are not cheap !!!! i rarely shoot it.. used to have to form my brass ... 300gr sierra match king is devastating and silent.. tricky to shoot distances.
556 ... just seems to lose a pig too often , and have to track... best choice for open pasture with 30rd mags ,rat tat tat multi tap ... but i rarely hunt these situations ..

300blk ... while not perfect ... cheap to reload and easy to find bullets for , runs great supers or subs and sounds great with a can ... accurate to 300 on deer .. 150 on pigs is all i'll attempt.

i prefer to stick to 110's on super as fast as i can push them , and 220's to 245's for subs ..

If I could have only 1 for pigs only ... i'd probably invest more time in the 6.8 and develop it more.. but i have way more brass bullets and guns in 300blk .. so it's still my go to.

[Bish]

I've got to say Grendel, its a killer and no recoil.

God Bless
Bish

[justletmein]

I like both the 6.8 SPC and the 6.5 Grendel for this application, in that order.

Also second the word on Bear Creek, have read more than a few negative comments about that. I've got no first hand experience though (and I won't get any) so FWIW.

[Mission408]

6.5 grendel

[kkp005]

16” 223 upper from Larue.
Shoot 77gr Sierra TMK’s and kill just about anything in NA

https://rokslide.com/forums/threads/223-for-bear-deer-elk-and-moose.130488/

[BLACKFINTURKEY]

Grendel is my favorite

[lglidewell]

Grendel fan here as well. My boys started shooting my Grendel SBR’s at age 6. Have taken hogs, coyotes, a doe and a 175 lb buck with it. They are 8 and 10 now, but always want to take the Grendel’s when we head out.

[AgHntr10]

I ended up going against the majority and ordered the 350 legend. For what I am wanting I don't really need long-range ballistics and once I started looking for 6.5 hunting ammo I quickly found not much in stock anywhere. I think the 350 will work just fine for my purposes.

[DaveC]

I ended up going against the majority and ordered the 350 legend. For what I am wanting I don't really need long-range ballistics and once I started looking for 6.5 hunting ammo I quickly found not much in stock anywhere. I think the 350 will work just fine for my purposes.

Sounds like the perfect match for you situation [emoji106]


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[hunterburch42]

6.8spc, Grendel, 350L. In that order, I have shot animals with all 3 suppressed. Honestly with the amount of felt recoil that the suppressor takes away, I would go with a youth friendly caliber in a bolt gun. The AR can have a few too many moving parts for a kid to safely operate in a blind.

For example, my son started hunting with an AR in 25-45 Sharps at 9 years old. One hunt, he was trying to be quiet when he loaded his gun and he didn't pull the charging handle all the way back which kept the bolt from closing all the way. The bolt looked to be closed but the lugs didn't lock up and the case hadn't seated against the bolt face. Sure enough, a nice cull buck walks out at about fifty and the gun went click when he pulled the trigger. Needless to say, there is no quiet way to cycle an AR in a deer blind and everything ran off. With a bolt gun this would have never happened, and if it did you can cycle a bolt without making a bunch of racket.

My son is 11 now and shoots a 7mm-08. My 12 y/o daughter shoots a suppressed 308.

Always use your forward assist in slow charge situation!!


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[Bullseye07]

Always use your forward assist in slow charge situation!!


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Best practice is to tap the forward assist every time you send the bolt home. That habit was drilled into us in the Marine Corps.


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