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    Cold Welded Ammunition and Blown Primer

    I was shooting some approximately 25-30 year old .270 Win Hornady Custom factory loads, and had a blown primer. I didn't fire my rifle after that, and took it to a gunsmith. He checked the chamber with a go/no-go gauge and said it was fine, he chambered several rounds he had in his shop and said the rifle's chamber was a little tight, but certainly not out of spec. We were discussing what led up to the blown primer, and I told gim I had been sighting in my rifle and had tried multiple recently purchased brands of ammo and had no issues when firing the new rounds. But when I switched to the old Hornady ammo, I had the blown primer issue. He asked me where I had been storing this ammo, and I told him in a metal military ammo can in my garage. He then speculated that my ammo had cold welded, which was a term I had never heard before. He stated that sometimes ther copper jacket of the bullet and the neck of the brass case can have a chemical reaction brought about by moisture, where the two metals fuse/weld together. He said firing a round that had cold welded could have caused excessive chamber pressure, resulting in the blown primer. He recommended not shooting my old ammo, and instead using modern ammo.

    I am just curious if anyone has ever had any experience with ammunition cold welding before, and if so is just the natural humidity enough to cause the chemical reaction over time, and are certain manufacturers more prone to cold welding than others. Last year I found a couple of boxes of .243 Win Remington Core-Lokt rounds that had green corrosion where the brass neck and bullet meet, and also around the primers. The Hornady rounds did not have this issue. I do remember getting trapped in a rainstorm while hunting back in the 1990s, and everything in my backpack got soaked, including a box of the Hornady Custom .270 Win rounds. The following day after I got home, I dried everything out, including the ammunition. Not sure if the blown primer round was one of those old rounds or not. Just trying to determine if normal humidity can cause the cold weld to occur, or does the round actually need to come in contact with water. Any help or advice is appreciated.
    Last edited by Bigfootwolff; 12-11-2022, 09:43 AM.

    #2
    I dont think cold fusion is possible, but with ammo that old it is plausible that the rounds have corroded enough to bind in the case. There is no science that supports the "cold fusion" theory according to google.

    I might suggest pulling a bullet from a case 1. see how hard it is to pull out, and 2 look for a line of corrosion around where it was seated in the brass.

    Seems like if nothing else, the powder should be recoverable.

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      #3
      Definitely possible for the copper and brass to corrode and basically weld the bullet into the case causing extreme pressure spikes.

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        #4
        That's why people load long then seat to final just before a match

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          #5
          Yeah I don’t know what the correct “term” would be. Cold weld probably isn’t it, BUT I know exactly what he is talking about. It’s usually dissimilar metal corrosion or tarnish.

          I encountered it when pulling down some reloads I got in an estate sale. Dang projectiles would not budge. Was told about them sticking together so I seated the bullets a smidge deeper to break the tension and they pulled apart after that.

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            #6
            I saw a 270 round break off a huge section of the cartridge neck and go down the barrel with the bullet.It didn’t seem to mess the barrel up but the bullet missed the deer for sure.He didn’t use any more from that box of bullets.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Brute Killer View Post
                Interesting. I would have NEVER imagined it would happen in a short span of a week or so.

                Maybe I need to look into something like Moly for my case necks. I usually do my load workup, and then load 100rds of my hunting ammo. It might take me 10 years to go through that 100rds, so it’s something I could very well experience. Maybe not to the point of blowing primers, but could 100% cause enough inconsistencies to open groups up.

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