Private sale transfer

[Mike D]

I got a smoking deal this week and seller wanted me to sign a bill of sale.

I did so to appease him and turned around and threw the carbon copy in the trash. Real simple process lol

But he still has a copy.


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[Mike D]

I make two copies of bill of sale. One for buyer, one for my records. Both parties sign each copy. B-O-S includes name, date, description and SN of item, and parties address. This gives the buyer more confidence, as well as my self. So that if it comes back to me somehow, I can direct Law Enforcement to the next source in getting a crime solved. Or if I somehow, without knowing, wind up with a crime related weapon, I can direct to the source. Thus, one more step in resolving a crime.


I also won't sell or buy from just anybody.


Edit: In doing this, if mine are ever stolen, I have records of SN and description of items for reporting.

Wow Mike, really?


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[Pawnhunter]

Another option is to both meet up with an FFL and do a transfer. FFL records in A&D book and runs background check. Peace of mind that buyer can legally purchase a firearm and adds to paper trail. FFL usually charges a nominal fee.

[Texas Grown]

Wow Mike, really?


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Well, I did quit trading. And don't sell anymore when I want something else. Cause I always wind up regretting, and wish I had it still. So now I just buy.

[trophy8]

I don’t mind showing my chl. But under no circumstances will anyone get a copy or get my address.

BOS isn’t worth the paper they are wrote on. Do your due diligence. Complete the sale or not. If you’re that worried, then put it on consignment somewhere or go through an ffl. I’d gladly through an ffl before I ever gave anyone my personal info.

[SmTx]

But he still has a copy.


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And "I sold the gun to some guy that showed me his LTC. I can't remember his name... "

That's my point and I know you get it.

I have buddies that absolutely will not sell a gun because they're afraid of going to jail for murder should it be used in one.

[Artos]

I’d gladly through an ffl before I ever gave anyone my personal info.

...and I now have your personal info.

[trophy8]

...and I now have your personal info.

Ha. Yeah but I’m ok with an FFL having it. Not some random dude off the street. The ATF has all kinds of paperwork for my NFA stuff. Is what it is on that front.

[tvc184]

I have talk to people or read forums responses from people that:

A. Will not sell or buy a firearm from anyone if he requires any kind of identification or bill of sale.
B. Will buy or sell a firearm from/to anyone only if he require some kind of identification and a bill of sale.

Strangely, the rationale seems to be for the same reason…. if the police come calling.

The people in group A likes the ability to say, I have no idea as I bought/sold from a person that I do not know and did not identify.

The people in group B likes the ability to say, yes officer I got this gun from this person or I sold it to that person. So if you are in possession of a stolen gun you can say that here is the person that sold it to me and he said that he lawfully owned it. If a gun was found at a crime scene, the you could tell the police that yes I sold that gun two years ago and here’s the person I sold it to. What the police to do with the information in either situation is up to them you feel like you are out of the equation.

Neither side is right and neither side is wrong. It’s just determining how you want to handle a future situation that might come up with a firearm that you currentlyi own or owned at one time.

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

Best bet is to transfer through a FFL….this form is on the interwebs
A brief Google search and you can download it.

[Mike D]

Private sale transfer

I have talk to people or read forums responses from people that:

A. Will not sell or buy a firearm from anyone if he requires any kind of identification or bill of sale.
B. Will buy or sell a firearm from/to anyone only if he require some kind of identification and a bill of sale.

Strangely, the rationale seems to be for the same reason…. if the police come calling.

The people in group A likes the ability to say, I have no idea as I bought/sold from a person that I do not know and did not identify.

The people in group B likes the ability to say, yes officer I got this gun from this person or I sold it to that person. So if you are in possession of a stolen gun you can say that here is the person that sold it to me and he said that he lawfully owned it. If a gun was found at a crime scene, the you could tell the police that yes I sold that gun two years ago and here’s the person I sold it to. What the police to do with the information in either situation is up to them you feel like you are out of the equation.

Neither side is right and neither side is wrong. It’s just determining how you want to handle a future situation that might come up with a firearm that you currentlyi own or owned at one time.

So devil’s advocate question.

Seller B in your scenario has the police come knocking. Yes I did sell that to Mr X, here’s my BOS. Thanks for that info seller B. BTW Mr X is a felon with a long rap sheet.

Now what? Did seller B just implicate himself in a crime for selling Mr X a gun?


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[Patriot-2000]

Unless I know the person ..Sign a receipt & show ID or no Deal

[Clay C]

Unless I know the person ..Sign a receipt & show ID or no Deal

Honest question. What is the point of them showing you an ID?

[ToRqUeTwIsTeR]

Honest question. What is the point of them showing you an ID?

To verify that they are who they say they are. Peace of mind

[Clay C]

To verify that they are who they say they are. Peace of mind

I get that, but how do you know if it's fake or not?