Rifle feeding issues

[txagyotebuster]

So on a R700 style action with BDL style bot metal, i am having some feeding issues. If you single load the mag and close the bolt it picks up round every time. But if you close thr bolt over the rounds in the mag it doesn't want to pick up next round most times. The round in the mag sits case head down in the mag. It only does this if the bolt closes on top of the rounds and it does it from either side of the stagger.

The mag spring seems very strong. I'm guessing it is. Mag box issue. It seems as if the round is wanting to bind right around the shoulder. What are some things to try? Tweaking the mag box? Don't want to get it too bent out of shape is what worries me. It is a 7mm/08

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[RifleBowPistol]

Sounds like the shelf, is hanging up on the sides of the box. I would open the bottom, swing the shelf out and look to see if you can see a reason it would hang up. Such as maybe a bur on the side of the shelf, maybe a dent in the side of the box. I would look for shiny spots on the sides of the shelf, where it has been making contact, same for the box.

To fix the problem, possibly loosening the screws that hold the action in the gun/the screws through the bottom metal. I would take the bottom metal off, then examine the box. Sometimes the box can get installed in the stock incorrectly. After checking the box, put it back in place, make sure the box is properly fitted into the bottom of the action. Then install the bottom metal, and screws, only lightly tighten the screws that hold the action in the stock. Then push the shelf up through the box to see if it hangs up.

Then make sure you torque the screws properly.

It should not be hard to figure out, whatever it is.

[txagyotebuster]

Are you calling the follower the shelf? Or something else?

[Evolver]

Are you shooting loads that are pushing the limits of allowable OAL for the caliber?

I have a 6.5 bolt action that is exactly as you are describing using 143 grain ELDX which are pushing max OAL. It does not do it with lower grain weith ammos that are a bit shorter OAL. Figured out that where things where hanging up was at the bottom of feed ramp and that rifle (Remington) as desinged just barely allows feeding of ammunition that is at max OAL for caliber. Everything has to be exactly perfect. The minor jostling of recoil results in fairly consistent failure to feed on follow up shots, just as you described.

[Evolver]

Read you OP again, and maybe I failed to understand your issue.

Is yours a failure to feed completely or failure to engage with the next round at all?

[RifleBowPistol]

Are you calling the follower the shelf? Or something else?

Shelf, follower, same.

I would bet the box is not in the bottom of the receiver correctly, but there may be something wrong with the follower/shelf, causing it to be too wide where it's hanging up.

I have put rifles back together and had the follower hang up, then figured out that the magazine box, did not seat up in the bottom of the receiver correctly. It's also possible the box is damaged in some way, could be bent.

Like the other guy pointed out, the rounds could have an overall length that is too long, if they are hand loads. I would assume if you are handloading, you would know if you are seating the bullets farther out of the case, than the specs in the manual.

My 6.5 loads are a bit too long for the magazine, so I am having to do single shot. I am pretty sure I can lengthen the box and the opening in the receiver and get the rounds to feed. But not going to mess with it right now.

[trophy8]

Are you certain it’s the correct follower? There are different ones.

[gumbl3]

I bet if you tweaked on the feed lips a little you can get it feeding reliably, done this before. It doesn't take much just trial and error. I've had to do it when I changed a 700 over to a Wyatt's kit believe it or not

[bmac]

Rifle feeding issues

I have a similar issue on a custom using a 700 clone and sometimes just have to pay close attention when loading that the ammo is level. Otherwise it skips over the round and have to play with it to feed.


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[Mike D]

Is this a factory rifle that you’ve had a while or is it a build and new?


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[txagyotebuster]

It's a new rifle. Didn't notice it when sighting in and even shooting a few deer with it opening weekend because i never needed more than 1 shot and didn't try to cycle the next round ever.
If it is something super quick and easy i didn't want to mess with shipping rifle back to builder

[trophy8]

It's a new rifle. Didn't notice it when sighting in and even shooting a few deer with it opening weekend because i never needed more than 1 shot and didn't try to cycle the next round ever.
If it is something super quick and easy i didn't want to mess with shipping rifle back to builder

Custom rifle? What bottom metal and all? Who built it? I’m sure they’ll take care of it or walk you through it

[LWD]

Grind the back of the follower down. Or just get a new one. CZ had a run of followers in the 550 Safari Magnums some years ago that caused this problem. The back of the follower was too high so the tips of the cartridges angled down and would get stuck when you tried to chamber a round. The more aggressively you worked the bolt the more stuck the cartridge got, and it only happened with spire point bullets. Round nose wouldn't get stuck.

LWD

[txagyotebuster]

Custom rifle? What bottom metal and all? Who built it? I’m sure they’ll take care of it or walk you through it

I'm sure they will. Just haven't called with holidays and we just had our 3rd little girl a week ago.

I will call them if i can't figure something out easily.

[Mike D]

It's a new rifle. Didn't notice it when sighting in and even shooting a few deer with it opening weekend because i never needed more than 1 shot and didn't try to cycle the next round ever.
If it is something super quick and easy i didn't want to mess with shipping rifle back to builder

Sounds to me like the follower may be installed backwards.


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