Barnes Bullets.....bang flop??????

[ColinR]

Hey guys I absolutely Nosler Ballistic tips bullets as I get bang flop every time with them, but unfortunately I have a rifle that does not like them. SOOO I'm looking for another bullet. I hear great things about Barnes bullets so I'm looking at the LRX.

For those that shoot the LRX or other barnes bullets do you get bang flop DRT or do they run a little ways. I know on the Nosler Ballistic tips they dump all there energy upon entry. I hear the Barnes retain like 90% of there weight and pass thru almost every time.

[gig one]

I have not found a bully in an animal I shot yet all pass throughs

[Trumpkin]

They don't energy dump the same way. The only barnes I've ever recovered was on a frontal shot on a mule deer. It plowed through something like 6" of spinal column before lodging under the skin on the other side. I love them out west because I'm not afraid to shoot an elk with one but they'll still kill deer out of my 30-06.

[scott.str]

You will need to drop down in weight as youll need more speed to make up for the copper bullet. This will increase the hydrostatic shock your looking for and should have decent results. It all depends on shot placement but with barnes you can take really any angle shot and be good. Most cup and core bullets dont do well through bone

[freerhunter16]

What cartridge? I love Barnes bullets, but they need to be driven fast. They are about as opposite of a bullet from your ballistic tips as you will find. I get a lot of DRT with them in several rifles, but they are all driven fast and shot center - high center shoulder. Don't expect many bang flops if you plan on shooting deer in the vitals. Drive em fast and hit something hard and they are devastating.

[ColinR]

So are yall getting bang flop, not take a step, just fall over, DRT? or are they running a little ways?????? Some of the areas I hunt are THICK. Running even 40 yards can be problematic. I need deer to DROP!

[warrington]

What do you mean you gun doesn’t like them?

[PNOAK]

So are yall getting bang flop, not take a step, just fall over, DRT? or are they running a little ways?????? Some of the areas I hunt are THICK. Running even 40 yards can be problematic. I need deer to DROP!

Shoot through the shoulders, it will likely go through both of them and break him down right there.

[freerhunter16]

So are yall getting bang flop, not take a step, just fall over, DRT? or are they running a little ways?????? Some of the areas I hunt are THICK. Running even 40 yards can be problematic. I need deer to DROP!

I get bang flop essentially every time. But, I shoot high shoulder and never behind the shoulder for a "vital" shot. Like stated above, dropping down in weight and increasing speed helps with the expansion tremendously.

I run a 165gr out of my .300wsm and 140gr out of my 7rm.

[RifleBowPistol]

I used them at one point, I shot three or four deer with them, all heart shots, every deer ran about 40 yards, dropped. Very small exit wound and very little blood to trail, but there was some but not much. I recovered every deer shot with them. I was shooting 130 gr. out of a 18" barreled 30-30 Contender, around 2450 fps to 2500 fps. Barnes claimed they would open up well at velocities below what I was shooting them at, they did no. I later switched to Ballistic Tips in that gun, it kills a lot faster now. I killed two bucks the Noslers, they both dropped pretty much on the stop they were hit.

My buddy shot some mule deer with them out of a 270 SWM, he got the same results I did. I used them on a very large hog, shot it in the head. Worked great for that purpose. The Barnes bullets, I would would probably only use them for shoulder shots, like through the shoulder bone. I would bet they do some damage at that point, but hitting hide and ribs, they don't open up, very well at all.

I don't know how available Nosler bullets are right now, I have looked all over the place for the Berger bullets I worked up a load for, for my new rifle. I can't find those bullets anywhere. Every day, I search the internet for hours looking for a box of the Bergers I am using. They don't exist, it seems. So far, I have not found a application other than ARs, that Nosler Ballistic Tips were not accurate in. I guess there could be other applications. I found my 5.56 AR does not do well with them, but it does not like most bullets, from what I have found. I have only found one it likes, that's a 52 gr. Speer hollow point, with anything else the groups get a lot larger. Good luck with your bullet search. I spent months developing a load for my 6.5, now I only have a few bullets left and now there are no more of the bullets I worked up that load with. So I guess I get to start all over on working up a load for my 6.5.

[SabreKiller]

I get bang flop essentially every time. But, I shoot high shoulder and never behind the shoulder for a "vital" shot. Like stated above, dropping down in weight and increasing speed helps with the expansion tremendously.

I run a 165gr out of my .300wsm and 140gr out of my 7rm.

^^^^This. High shoulder shot with the Barnes bullets will get a bang flop nearly every time. I shoot the 90 gr X bullet in my 257 Roberts and the 140 TTSX in my 7 RSAUM and I have never had an animal take another step.

[Lone_Wolf]

https://coppercreekcartridgeco.com/

They will help you find a load that shoots your Nosler Ballistic tips well. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[westtexducks]

If wanting a similar performance to your nosler bt would look at the Winchester ballistic silvertips or the hornady sst for factory stuff as well as reloads.

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[Mike D]

What cartridge are you shooting? As mentioned they need velocity.


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[ColinR]

Its a 6.5 saum so plenty of velocity. Someone else mentioned Sierra game changer. If I can find some I will try those to. This rifle absolutely loves the eldx and berger bullets but too many bad reports on them scare me.