EDC Red Dot questions and recommendations

[mrduxs]

Ok green screen I would like your thoughts on EDC with Red Dot.
1) Do you carry with red dot?
2) Advantages/ Disadvantages
3) Any recommendations if I decided to install one on my EDC?

[Gummi Bear]

Just curious: When do you think you'll have time to turn it on?

[J-Carp]

I do not recommend it for the average EDC’er.

MRD’s take lots of practice to be proficient at using. It’s all about the draw stroke.

If you shoot a lot or are willing to purchase one and practice practice practice for awhile before carrying then go for it.

[J-Carp]

Just curious: When do you think you'll have time to turn it on?

They are always on.

[JakeM]

Just curious: When do you think you'll have time to turn it on?

you leave them on...

[Gummi Bear]

EDC Red Dot questions and recommendations

you leave them on...

They are always on.

Thanks

Never owned one, been thinking of one for a P80 I’m building.


The only red dot I’ve owned is the Aimpoint on a rifle. Never used a holographic.

How long do batteries last?


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[QuackHunter]

I turn 21 in a few months but the rig I practice with has a Leupold DP Pro on it. If you’re willing to actually train with them they’re great and they’re faster than irons, if not then it’s not gonna be any easier for you to draw and pickup the dot. Dry fire is a great way to get your draw consistent and be consistently picking up the dot. Look into these in this order, RMR, DP Pro, SRO. the RMR being the most duty rated optic.


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[JakeM]

Thanks

Never owned one, been thinking of one for a P80 I’m building.


The only red dot I’ve owned is the Aimpoint on a rifle. Never used a holographic.

How long do batteries last?


I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately...

Henry David Thoreau

Trijicon RMR on like the middle brightness lasts for like 4 years.

[TacticalCowboy]

1. No I do not

2. Advantages: Can be faster than irons. Can be more accurate than irons.
Disadvantages: Lens can break. Lens can get wet and you’ll see 5000 little dots and not know which to use. Lens can break. You really have to practice drawing and indexing to the dot, with a standard two handed grip, strong hand, and weak hand. Dot can break. Batteries can die. Battery doors can open/break. Dot can be too bright or not bright enough (admittedly, irons are not good when it’s dark....but neither is a really bright dot). Screws that hold sight down can break or come loose. Dot can break.

3. The only two I would consider for carry is the RMR or the SRO. The problem with the RMR is the screen is tiny, which makes finding and tracking the dot more difficult. The SRO is a usable size, but that means it’s bigger/harder to conceal.

[Mike D]

Thanks

Never owned one, been thinking of one for a P80 I’m building.


The only red dot I’ve owned is the Aimpoint on a rifle. Never used a holographic.

How long do batteries last?


I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately...

Henry David Thoreau

Somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000 hours.


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[bboswell]

I have an RMR and I'm much more accurate with it but I'm way slower acquiring a sight picture, to the point that I'm not yet comfortable carrying it. My son had a Delta Point Pro and it seemed easier to get a sight picture.


and I second all the possible disadvantages listed by Cowboy above

[QuackHunter]

1. No I do not

2. Advantages: Can be faster than irons. Can be more accurate than irons.
Disadvantages: Lens can break. Lens can get wet and you’ll see 5000 little dots and not know which to use. Lens can break. You really have to practice drawing and indexing to the dot, with a standard two handed grip, strong hand, and weak hand. Dot can break. Batteries can die. Battery doors can open/break. Dot can be too bright or not bright enough (admittedly, irons are not good when it’s dark....but neither is a really bright dot). Screws that hold sight down can break or come loose. Dot can break.

3. The only two I would consider for carry is the RMR or the SRO. The problem with the RMR is the screen is tiny, which makes finding and tracking the dot more difficult. The SRO is a usable size, but that means it’s bigger/harder to conceal.

The thing about them breaking, for an RMR anyway. Is the amount of force required to break them would likely also break irons. Especially if it’s a Glock with factory irons, do MRD’s break? Yes, does it take a lot of force to do so? Also yes, people abuse the hell out of RMR’s and DP Pros and they keep ticking, the SRO also holds up well but not quite as well


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[TacticalCowboy]

The thing about them breaking, for an RMR anyway. Is the amount of force required to break them would likely also break irons. Especially if it’s a Glock with factory irons, do MRD’s break? Yes, does it take a lot of force to do so? Also yes, people abuse the hell out of RMR’s and DP Pros and they keep ticking, the SRO also holds up well but not quite as well


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I can count on one hand the number of iron sights I’ve seen break to the point of not being able to use them in 15 years of USPSA and 3 gunning (this doesn’t include a fiber optic falling out or something—the sights are still usable).

Dots have only become prevalent in the sports in the last 3 years or so for anything other than a full on Open gun, since carry optics has become a division. I’ve seen dots from every manufacturer break.


Of course, those guns actually get shot and used, so the typical CC’er wouldn’t ever have those issues.

[RJH1]

Ok green screen I would like your thoughts on EDC with Red Dot.
1) Do you carry with red dot?
2) Advantages/ Disadvantages
3) Any recommendations if I decided to install one on my EDC?

I do not carry with a dot but considered one strongly for a a bit. I even used one on a competition gun for a while to see if i would like it. After 1000 or so rounds i decided it was not for me for carry. I feel any perceived advantages were out weighed by the very real disadvantages for a carry gun

Here is why I don't use one for carry:

1 Basically everything TC already posted

2 A simply dirty/wet lens not only screws the dot up, it obscures the front sight making the back up sights less effective as well.

3 the advantages for a dot for me only begin to show up for me at 15+ yards (really 25+, but i am being generous) most SD scenarios are at a considerably closer distance

4 You take one of, if not the most, reliable systems of the gun and turn it into the LEAST reliable by a margin system. If you don't believe this, see how many people that do use a dot for a carry gun do so with out back up irons. I will wager it is almost 0%



So my recommendations: Don't red dot, put in a tritium FRONT sight and be done.


Have a good one