Scope opinions

[Mac]

I have a 22 that I am looking to use for lr plinking and as a trainer for my bigger rifles. It will also be used suppressed to shoot hogs with so I am concerned w/ low light performance. The plan is to buy a lower tier scope with the same reticle as the one on my main rifle. I'm deciding between a vortex pst ii or a nightforce shv, both being FFP. There is only a couple hundred dollar difference between the two and the vortex would have a higher magnification range. I'm just not sure how the vortex performs in low light or if I'm crazy for even considering it when the nightforce is only a couple hundred more. Thanks for any advice

[Cajun Blake]

22 Long Rifle ?

If so make sure the scope has a focus (AO or side) that goes down to 25 yds

[TX03RUBI]

Personally I’m not a fan of the SHV or NXS line at all. The reticles are horrible, the glass is lacking, but they’re durable. I’ve had 5-6 Gen II PSTs on a few different rifles, and they have performed well. Good turrets, good reticle, and decent glass. They go down to 25. I’m not sure that they’re as durable as the NF, but I beat the crap out of my gear and I haven’t had a failure yet (that’s more than I can say for the PST I). For the mid tier optics I’d go PST II, and NF ATACR for a higher end option.

[snipermedic]

How about the same scope you have on your bigger rifles?

[Mac]

How about the same scope you have on your bigger rifles?

I’ll either be buying an nightforce atacr or a razor for that rifle, it’s still being built so I’ll be buying two scopes in the near future.
Blake, yes 22lr and both focus down to 25yds

[Mac]

Personally I’m not a fan of the SHV or NXS line at all. The reticles are horrible, the glass is lacking, but they’re durable. I’ve had 5-6 Gen II PSTs on a few different rifles, and they have performed well. Good turrets, good reticle, and decent glass. They go down to 25. I’m not sure that they’re as durable as the NF, but I beat the crap out of my gear and I haven’t had a failure yet (that’s more than I can say for the PST I). For the mid tier optics I’d go PST II, and NF ATACR for a higher end option.

No issues w/ solar flare or difficulty seeing in low light? I know that was a problem I had with the older vortex’s

[STX_Shooter]

I just bought 2 of these one for my 17 HMR “trainer” and for a AR15. They should be coming in soon.

[TX03RUBI]

No issues w/ solar flare or difficulty seeing in low light? I know that was a problem I had with the older vortex’s

I’ve shot quite a few rabbits in thick brush well after the sun has gone down with a PST II 3-15 on my 17 HMR. I prefer the low light ability of my ATACR or Kahles, but I don’t have any complaints of the PST II. Being the reticle is pretty thin on low mag I do use the illuminated reticle turned on just enough to see.

[Mac]

I’ve shot quite a few rabbits in thick brush well after the sun has gone down with a PST II 3-15 on my 17 HMR. I prefer the low light ability of my ATACR or Kahles, but I don’t have any complaints of the PST II. Being the reticle is pretty thin on low mag I do use the illuminated reticle turned on just enough to see.

Awesome that’s what I needed to know thank you!

[Maxx85]

TX03RUBI, for me the durability of scopes is also one of the most important things. And it's not only about basic scope, but for thermal vision scopes as well. I've been testing a scope called AGM PYTHON-MICRO TS50-384 for the last few weeks ( one of these: https://www.agmglobalvision.com/ther...-weapon-sights ), and what I can say for sure is that night hunting is what I need today. It has electronic accuracy correction, and believe or not, even has Wi-Fi data transmission. It's kinda like mini computer on your rifle.

[TX03RUBI]

TX03RUBI, for me the durability of scopes is also one of the most important things. And it's not only about basic scope, but for thermal vision scopes as well. I've been testing a scope called AGM PYTHON-MICRO TS50-384 for the last few weeks ( one of these: https://www.agmglobalvision.com/ther...-weapon-sights ), and what I can say for sure is that night hunting is what I need today. It has electronic accuracy correction, and believe or not, even has Wi-Fi data transmission. It's kinda like mini computer on your rifle.

I don’t buy cheap crap, and I don’t run crap that doesn’t hold up. I’ve had several failure with previous Gen PSTs 6-7 years ago, and wrote them off entirely. I’ve been running a few PST IIs on recommendations from friends that think and spend the same kind of money I do. I trust their opinion whole heartedly otherwise I’d have never given them a second look. They’ve been used and abused very thoroughly, and I have yet to have a failure. Even when the rifle was dropped onto a tile floor directly on the elevation knob and pushed into the tube. It still held zero just fine.

If durability is your concern I would recommend against the PRG TS-50. The two I have experience with have both failed. One was the previous AGM branded version, and the second was the newer PRG version.

[kae006]

I don’t buy cheap crap, and I don’t run crap that doesn’t hold up. I’ve had several failure with previous Gen PSTs 6-7 years ago, and wrote them off entirely. I’ve been running a few PST IIs on recommendations from friends that think and spend the same kind of money I do. I trust their opinion whole heartedly otherwise I’d have never given them a second look. They’ve been used and abused very thoroughly, and I have yet to have a failure. Even when the rifle was dropped onto a tile floor directly on the elevation knob and pushed into the tube. It still held zero just fine.

If durability is your concern I would recommend against the PRG TS-50. The two I have experience with have both failed. One was the previous AGM branded version, and the second was the newer PRG version.

Not doubting you at all, just curious what kind of shooting you do that you've experienced "several failures" in your Vortex PST's? I guess I've been lucky thus far, but we are probably on a completely different level of shooting.

[TX03RUBI]

Not doubting you at all, just curious what kind of shooting you do that you've experienced "several failures" in your Vortex PST's? I guess I've been lucky thus far, but we are probably on a completely different level of shooting.

2 failures over 4 PSTs of my own, and been with another that I verfied. One failure to hold zero and one reticle coming unattached. Neither had anything to do with actual shooting performance. Both times they happened riding down a roughish road. The kicker was both times they were in a pelican case. I havent cased a rifle in 5+ years, and I usually treat my gear far worse than that. I’ve got a handful of friends that have had similar issues, and they’re of very similar mindset and knowledge when it comes to firearms. We’re all prett an*l about torque, mounting, and using quality rings etc. That wasn’t the case on any of them.

[Clabdor]

The feedback I have gotten on Vortex has been good. Hard to beat their warranty, although obviously that doesn't help if the scope fails in the field.