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    Warning and what have I got

    I started a thread about needing a bullet puller because I had bought some reloads at an estate sale and I wanted to salvage cases and load my own recipe

    The boxes were all marked (factory marks) .270 but there was a sticky note on a couple that said 75gr HP, 56gr IMR 4831

    Every case was head stamped .270 and I considered loading them in the my ruger M77 and shooting them, then reloading but decided pulling bullets and dumping charges and starting over was a better option

    I used a hammer type puller and dislodged one load.

    Curiosity got to me so I weighed projectiles and sure enough 75gr and powder weights were not exact but close
    ^^^^^ Reason #1 that has been stated by many for not using handloads you did not load yourself

    So someone had commented on the thread about bullet pullers that once you seat and then unseat a bullet in a case that you need to resize to get next bullet to properly seat.
    Now I am very much uneducated about reloading so I decided to see just how loose the bullet fit in a fired case, the bullet fell into the fired case with lots of room to spare and I wondered just how much would a case expand.
    I dug my calipers out and looked up case specs for .270 and outside is .308 and that checked out, inside was very close to .278
    75gr bullet diameter was .255
    Reason #2

    When you put the empty cases side by side you can tell the reloaded one had been renecked down and is slightly shorter (maybe the one I had needs trimming) but just pulling one of the reloads out with no comparison it LOOKED like a .270

    I have no idea if firing them through the bigger bore would have caused major damage but my gut says it would not be good

    Now I am left with trying to figure out exactly what I have that is a .270 case necked down to .255?


    So if you are considering using some reloaded ammo take the advice of the majority and DO NOT USE IT

    UNLESS you know the reloader or can verify with no question the accuracy of what the load consists of

    #2
    Could be a .25-06. I make my .25-06 AI brass from .270 cases.
    Last edited by Phillip Fields; 04-25-2020, 07:18 AM.

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      #3
      For sure do not shoot reloads from an unknown source.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Phillip Fields View Post
        Could be a .25-06.
        I looked at that and parent case for 25-06 is 30-06

        Parent case for .270 is 30-03 gov so I guess if 30-03 and 30-06 are similar?

        Need to figure out if I can salvage them for .270 or what to do. My "good deal" on the brass is turning out to be a small loss

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          #5
          Yeah it’s definitely not a good idea unless you know who loaded them. Good call by not shooting them.

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            #6
            Originally posted by BTLowry View Post
            I looked at that and parent case for 25-06 is 30-06

            Parent case for .270 is 30-03 gov so I guess if 30-03 and 30-06 are similar?

            Need to figure out if I can salvage them for .270 or what to do. My "good deal" on the brass is turning out to be a small loss
            The only difference between a .30-03 case and the .30-06 case is that the 06 has a slightly shorter neck.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BTLowry View Post
              I looked at that and parent case for 25-06 is 30-06

              Parent case for .270 is 30-03 gov so I guess if 30-03 and 30-06 are similar
              I am not an expert and I have been wrong before but I thought 30-06 is the parent case of the 270

              Edit: Phillip beat me to it

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                #8
                Anybody know if I can easily neck UP to salvage them?

                Or should I sell/swap/donate and start over?

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                  #9
                  I would start over...I won't use other reloads if I do not know their ability first hand. I also want to know how many times the cases have been resized so just not worth it imo.

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                    #10
                    Just throw the **** things away.

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                      #11
                      Headspace gauge for 30-06 also works on 25-06 and 270. Not to mention 35 Whelen. I have used 270 brass to make all of those at one time or another. The devil is in the details though. The converted brass HAS to be identified. That brass was converted to 25-06. If you had shot them, the brass would have been fireformed to the chamber, and the bullet would have rattled down the bore. Zero accuracy, but not dangerous. A loose chamber 25-06 that could fit a 270 round could get interesting. That's why the 280 Rem. has a case body that is 0.050'' longer than a 270. Calipers and check everything on reload ammo. Even your own. People forget and make mistakes as well. With the pressure involved in ammo, check twice.

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                        #12
                        New Brass is cheap and reusable. Worth every penny. Chunk the junk and start from scratch..

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                          #13
                          Warning and what have I got

                          Originally posted by BTLowry View Post
                          Anybody know if I can easily neck UP to salvage them?

                          Or should I sell/swap/donate and start over?


                          Yes you can. Best way would be to use an expanded mandrel die but a regular old 270 sizing did will work. Make sure to lube the cases well including inside the necks.


                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mike D View Post
                            Yes you can. Best way would be to use an expanded mandrel die but a regular old 270 sizing did will work. Make sure to lube the cases well including inside the necks.


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                            This! But I'd anneal the case necks before resizing. Also measure the shoulder of the case. If the shoulder has been pushed back it could cause a headspace problem.

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                              #15
                              I'm just gonna pull the bullets, dump the powder and scrap the brass I guess

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