The Wilsons keep the case stationary and only plunge the bullet so only one moving piece unlike dies that use a ram the pushes the case AND bullet into the seating die. In my humble opinion, the reasons that Wilson dies are known for their accuracy is that they, unlike standard 7/8-14 dies that screw into a press, are always dead nuts lined up between body and seating stem. Standard screw in dies always have a bunch of slop until they hit the locking collar which you hope will center the die to the shell holder. Those types of dies have the ability to loosen up a bit in the press as well and we know what happens then. Also, they are easily traveled with and BR shooters can take them to a shoot and reload at their bench with a small arbor press. BR shooters also tend to go down the rabbit hole farther than your standard hunter hoping for a little better accuracy out of a hunting or even a PRS rig so they’ll have dies ground to their personal chamber, thus diminishing any movement in the case in the die body. Perhaps Cajun Blake or one of the other gents more knowledgeable than myself will be able to add to this if needed. I will say that my Reddings produce very consistent results, though.
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Originally posted by kck View PostThe Wilsons keep the case stationary and only plunge the bullet so only one moving piece unlike dies that use a ram the pushes the case AND bullet into the seating die. In my humble opinion, the reasons that Wilson dies are known for their accuracy is that they, unlike standard 7/8-14 dies that screw into a press, are always dead nuts lined up between body and seating stem. Standard screw in dies always have a bunch of slop until they hit the locking collar which you hope will center the die to the shell holder. Those types of dies have the ability to loosen up a bit in the press as well and we know what happens then. Also, they are easily traveled with and BR shooters can take them to a shoot and reload at their bench with a small arbor press. BR shooters also tend to go down the rabbit hole farther than your standard hunter hoping for a little better accuracy out of a hunting or even a PRS rig so they’ll have dies ground to their personal chamber, thus diminishing any movement in the case in the die body. Perhaps Cajun Blake or one of the other gents more knowledgeable than myself will be able to add to this if needed. I will say that my Reddings produce very consistent results, though.
That all makes sense but ironically my Forster Co-Ax press allows the die to float and the case to float a bit since it doesn’t use shell holders but it makes some very consistent and low runout ammo.
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i was speaking more to the single stage or even turret presses that many people use that hold the dies by tightening them down. Yes, the Forster is obviously a different animal and is a much better design and definitely the one to use. I would think the Redding dies would perform well in it, may just have to change out the locking ring to fit the Forster?
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Originally posted by kck View Posti was speaking more to the single stage or even turret presses that many people use that hold the dies by tightening them down. Yes, the Forster is obviously a different animal and is a much better design and definitely the one to use. I would think the Redding dies would perform well in it, may just have to change out the locking ring to fit the Forster?
Yep just have to buy the Forster lock rings.
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Originally posted by kck View PostThe Wilsons keep the case stationary and only plunge the bullet so only one moving piece unlike dies that use a ram the pushes the case AND bullet into the seating die. In my humble opinion, the reasons that Wilson dies are known for their accuracy is that they, unlike standard 7/8-14 dies that screw into a press, are always dead nuts lined up between body and seating stem. Standard screw in dies always have a bunch of slop until they hit the locking collar which you hope will center the die to the shell holder. Those types of dies have the ability to loosen up a bit in the press as well and we know what happens then. Also, they are easily traveled with and BR shooters can take them to a shoot and reload at their bench with a small arbor press. BR shooters also tend to go down the rabbit hole farther than your standard hunter hoping for a little better accuracy out of a hunting or even a PRS rig so they’ll have dies ground to their personal chamber, thus diminishing any movement in the case in the die body. Perhaps Cajun Blake or one of the other gents more knowledgeable than myself will be able to add to this if needed. I will say that my Reddings produce very consistent results, though.Last edited by Radar; 03-16-2020, 01:40 PM.
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Originally posted by Radar View PostYou can float the dies and this helps with self alignment, I posted that earlier. Years ago I watched BR guys that did not have much money, shoot groups that held their own in matches. They loaded ammo at the bench with an old C frame press and used homemade powder scoops out of pistol cases that were cut to a certain length for a specific powder charge. They floated the dies with a 7/8 rubber o ring placed between the nut and press. Very simple and workes very well.
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Originally posted by kck View PostPretty cool info, didn’t know that. With the rubber rings are you able to keep seating depth consistent? I’d assume so if they were able to hold their own. I believe some of the Forster press users also machine their own rings for consistency but I’m sure someone with more experience could speak to that more so than myself.
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