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    #16
    On good days I can take any of these and shoot between 1/2" and 1" groups at 100 yards but there are always the occasional flier.

    If your chasing accuracy, at 100 yards they should all be in one hole. If you get fliers you did something wrong or have a reloading issue. Half inch groups are good at 400 yards or beyond, but typically less that half inch is acheivable with the right gear and right reloading equiptment and components

    I feel like I have honed my shooting skills to the point that I know I made a good shot and the bullet hits an inch away and I have to blame the bullet.
    wrong


    1. Would I benefit by sorting my bullets according to bearing surface?
    sorting by bearing surface is much better than sorting by weight

    2. Which bullets do you guys like best for accuracy?
    berger

    3.Which bullets are the most consistent with all measurements?
    none besides custom bullets. BUT bergers,
    Lapuas, some sierras, and some hornadys shoot very very very well.


    Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]

    Theres a lot of unknowns in what your doing. Hard to narrow it all down. Your problem could be as simple as parralex issues. No telling really. You need to break down each step of your process reloading wise.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Bowyer View Post
      Wind flags.
      Do you just set them near the target?

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      Multiple distances. Multiple flags.

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        #18
        I don’t sort bullets. If I’m working with a bolt gun, I’ll sort brass by headstamp.

        It really comes down to what you’re doing with the gun. I personally don’t have any wishes to chase the “perfect” group at any distance. I’m ok with MOA performance and super happy with 3/4 or half MOA, as I either shoot fairly large targets in 3 gun or shoot critters 300 yards or less.

        IMO, you can get to the point of diminishing returns reeeeeeeal quick.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Bowyer View Post
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          Big problems here if going for accuracy.

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            #20
            I just ordered a Bob Green bullet comparator. It measures from the ogive to the spot where the seating stem touches. It really helps you achieve consistent seating depth.

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              #21
              Originally posted by SNIPER3388 View Post
              On good days I can take any of these and shoot between 1/2" and 1" groups at 100 yards but there are always the occasional flier.

              If your chasing accuracy, at 100 yards they should all be in one hole. If you get fliers you did something wrong or have a reloading issue. Half inch groups are good at 400 yards or beyond, but typically less that half inch is acheivable with the right gear and right reloading equiptment and components

              I feel like I have honed my shooting skills to the point that I know I made a good shot and the bullet hits an inch away and I have to blame the bullet.
              wrong


              1. Would I benefit by sorting my bullets according to bearing surface?
              sorting by bearing surface is much better than sorting by weight

              2. Which bullets do you guys like best for accuracy?
              berger

              3.Which bullets are the most consistent with all measurements?
              none besides custom bullets. BUT bergers,
              Lapuas, some sierras, and some hornadys shoot very very very well.


              Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk
              Theres a lot of unknowns in what your doing. Hard to narrow it all down. Your problem could be as simple as parralex issues. No telling really. You need to break down each step of your process reloading wise.[/QUOTE]

              .5” at 400+. Impressive.

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                #22
                If I was shooting benchrest competition I probably would as well as several other things to make each round exactly the same in every possible way.
                The 3 most accurate bullets I have reloaded are Barnes, Berger and Nosler in that order. One exception is Speer TNT 50gr HP flatbase in .224 for my 22-250 varmint rifle. These shoot in the 2's consistently with 36grs of H380. Also some guns prefer flat base bullets over boattail. My ladyboy calibers like .224 up to 6mm generally do better with flat base and the grown man calibers .30 and up like boattail design best. Not sure why but I just let the gun decide what it likes best.

                If you are shooting boattail switch and try some flatbase or vice versa. Might help you find what your gun likes.
                Last edited by muzzlebrake; 02-19-2019, 08:26 AM.

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                  #23
                  I sort my 7mm Hornady's prior to loading. Doesn't take but a few minutes.

                  The practice has me putting aside 9-10 out of 100. I also trickle feed the powder for these loads. Just some added confidence and total consistency in an easy area.

                  I only shoot 6-12 rounds of these per year. 3 boxes last a long time.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Bowyer View Post
                    Thanks for your insight.
                    I am seeing the same thing that you are experiencing with Hornady bullets and am starting to suspect it is the culprit for wild fliers.

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                    Do you know anyone with a gun that will consistently shoot in the .3/.2's @ 100? Just like shooting a gun like this will confirm your shooting skills reloading for the same weapon will help confidence in your reloading process.

                    I think sometimes numbers are thrown around that make people question their shooting, and in this case reloading process. Shooting pencil barrel factory rifles to 1/2 MOA @ 200 yards is a win in my opinion.

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                      #25
                      The key word here is consistency in precision shooting. If you are doing everything right and are getting tight groups only occasionally, that doesn’t necessarily mean your equipment is capable of that kind of precision. Just as you sometimes have flyers that open up groups from the norm, one can also have flyers that go the other way and create groups tighter than the normal. That doesn’t necessarily mean your equipment is capable of that kind of accuracy (or actually precision). Those occasional tight groups might be flukes. To chase these extreme groups, especially in many factory rifles are often unobtainable. I know, I have tried too many times.

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                        #26
                        If you’re gonna do that then you may as well get a meplat trimmer or crimper to get the nose of each bullet exactly the same. Go down that hole and I’ll send you some crayons to the nut house in the next six months. You may have mentioned it and if you hit did I’m sorry I missed it but I think that turning your necks is one of the more important things you can do to ensure consistent release.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by SNIPER3388 View Post
                          On good days I can take any of these and shoot between 1/2" and 1" groups at 100 yards but there are always the occasional flier.

                          If your chasing accuracy, at 100 yards they should all be in one hole. If you get fliers you did something wrong or have a reloading issue. Half inch groups are good at 400 yards or beyond, but typically less that half inch is acheivable with the right gear and right reloading equiptment and components

                          I feel like I have honed my shooting skills to the point that I know I made a good shot and the bullet hits an inch away and I have to blame the bullet.
                          wrong


                          1. Would I benefit by sorting my bullets according to bearing surface?
                          sorting by bearing surface is much better than sorting by weight

                          2. Which bullets do you guys like best for accuracy?
                          berger

                          3.Which bullets are the most consistent with all measurements?
                          none besides custom bullets. BUT bergers,
                          Lapuas, some sierras, and some hornadys shoot very very very well.


                          Sent from my SM-G892A using Tapatalk
                          Theres a lot of unknowns in what your doing. Hard to narrow it all down. Your problem could be as simple as parralex issues. No telling really. You need to break down each step of your process reloading wise.[/QUOTE]

                          One hole means different things to different folks. @ 100 .3 moa will typically be touching and likely torn to connect all shots. .2 is more like one hole but still not truly a one hole group in the .1 / .09 area.

                          I am guessing you meant 1/2 moa @ 400? 1/2 inch at that range is 1/8th moa, and more than impressive.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by -HIC- View Post
                            Theres a lot of unknowns in what your doing. Hard to narrow it all down. Your problem could be as simple as parralex issues. No telling really. You need to break down each step of your process reloading wise.
                            One hole means different things to different folks. @ 100 .3 moa will typically be touching and likely torn to connect all shots. .2 is more like one hole but still not truly a one hole group in the .1 / .09 area.

                            I am guessing you meant 1/2 moa @ 400? 1/2 inch at that range is 1/8th moa, and more than impressive.[/QUOTE]

                            Bingo. I hate when I hear “one ragged hole” lol.

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                              #29
                              One hole means different things to different folks. @ 100 .3 moa will typically be touching and likely torn to connect all shots. .2 is more like one hole but still not truly a one hole group in the .1 / .09 area.

                              I am guessing you meant 1/2 moa @ 400? 1/2 inch at that range is 1/8th moa, and more than impressive.[/QUOTE]

                              I dont talk in moa lol. I shoot competively. Half inch is clearer to understand for most people. Moa is slighly lsrger than an inch so at 100 we are talking about 4.5 inch groups to say moa... but a 4.5 inch group at 400 is horrible to me. Id change barrels at that point.

                              Im very deep into it all. Way more than most.
                              Last edited by SNIPER3388; 02-19-2019, 11:28 AM.

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                                #30
                                Nah. I just load them and shoot them... Been doing it that way since 1980.
                                Unless your going address every variable, which is very time consuming, then it's a slight waste of time..

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