2019 APR TBH Special Ideas

[Struggle]

In for a Tier 1 CF, Merry Christmas to me!

[keatonskidmore]

I say go for option one. It sounds like you’re very confident in the barrels already and you’re just wanting to do some more testing to verify your results. I’m sure everyone will want the quicker lead times anyway.

I’m in for a tier 1.
I would also like to know if we can have the Gen 2 action subbed in. I know it’s heavier but I think I like it better.

[txagyotebuster]

I say get started with the APR CF barrels. If it doesn't work out it just takes a bit longer and costs a bit more. I'm down either way.

[TexasBob]

I’m still in of course, everything that can be should be APR. work out your testing and go from there. Worst case I owe you a bit more $ if we have to go proof research


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[DJames]

Option 2 or 1

[DJames]

And that is a smoking deal on price!!!!!

[keatonskidmore]

And that is a smoking deal on price!!!!!

Yeah looking at some of their other builds in the past with similar specs it looks like we’re saving right at about $1,000

[Stick1]

My main question was if gen2 action could be subbed in tier1?

Maybe....if folks are willing to accept the trade-offs. To better explain that, the Gen 2 with the smaller window will lend itself better to DBM as it will be harder to load from the top. But then DBM will change the inlet on the stock, and so on. I kind of left the door open for DBM and G2 action on the tier 2 version since weight wasn't really a big issue on that version. Heck, it only exists because some folks actually wanted a heavier version than the original concept.

In my mind, a tac-style action and DBM system really don't fit on the Tier 1 type of build. The goal for that one was as light as possible. Which means it is probably going to be carried a lot. When not slung, most folks carry the rifle on the natural balance point right under the action area. It needs to be comfortable and fit in the contour of your hand. Which is hard to do with a big metal box protruding down. That's why we won't be offering a DBM version on that one, but if you can live with the smaller loading port, we'll gladly sub a G2 in there for you.

Ultimately, we don't want to do too many substitutions or variants on this one after we land on the final blue print. Not because we don't want to give everyone exactly what they want, but because we want to keep the pricing at about 2/3rds of normal costs for this deal. Keeping the parts list and workflow streamlined helps a bunch with that.

[keatonskidmore]

2019 APR TBH Special Ideas

Maybe....if folks are willing to accept the trade-offs. To better explain that, the Gen 2 with the smaller window will lend itself better to DBM as it will be harder to load from the top. But then DBM will change the inlet on the stock, and so on. I kind of left the door open for DBM and G2 action on the tier 2 version since weight wasn't really a big issue on that version. Heck, it only exists because some folks actually wanted a heavier version than the original concept.



In my mind, a tac-style action and DBM system really don't fit on the Tier 1 type of build. The goal for that one was as light as possible. Which means it is probably going to be carried a lot. When not slung, most folks carry the rifle on the natural balance point right under the action area. It needs to be comfortable and fit in the contour of your hand. Which is hard to do with a big metal box protruding down. That's why we won't be offering a DBM version on that one, but if you can live with the smaller loading port, we'll gladly sub a G2 in there for you.



Ultimately, we don't want to do too many substitutions or variants on this one after we land on the final blue print. Not because we don't want to give everyone exactly what they want, but because we want to keep the pricing at about 2/3rds of normal costs for this deal. Keeping the parts list and workflow streamlined helps a bunch with that.

So the tier 1 option won’t be able to have a detachable mag? I know it’s about weight and all but I love the ability to drop the mag to load another couple rounds or swap mags during predator hunts. Rather than opening the bolt and loading through the action.

One more question. On triggers you said triggertech. Will these all be the same? Or
Will there be a choice between curved or flat?

[Stick1]

I’m in for a tier 1.
I would also like to know if we can have the Gen 2 action subbed in. I know it’s heavier but I think I like it better.

Bottom line - we'll swap actions if folks go into it knowing that there is not as much room to load the magazine(you guys that got in on last years Axiom builds know exactly what I'm talking about here). I'm sure everybody understands exactly what I'm referring to, but pics never hurt

Hunter version. Notice all of the access you have to load rounds from directly above the magazine.


G2 version. You are going to have less room to get that round and thumb in there with anything fatter than a 308 sized case. Short mags can be challenging. We made the angles a little more friendly, but its still tight.

[keatonskidmore]

Bottom line - we'll swap actions if folks go into it knowing that there is not as much room to load the magazine(you guys that got in on last years Axiom builds know exactly what I'm talking about here). I'm sure everybody understands exactly what I'm referring to, but pics never hurt



Hunter version. Notice all of the access you have to load rounds from directly above the magazine.





G2 version. You are going to have less room to get that round and thumb in there with anything fatter than a 308 sized case. Short mags can be challenging. We made the angles a little more friendly, but its still tight.

Ok I understand. Honestly the only reason I was saying I liked the G2 action was that it’s the newest action y’all have, and it looks cleaner from the side by not having that gap under the rail.

[Txarrowhunter]

Maybe....if folks are willing to accept the trade-offs. To better explain that, the Gen 2 with the smaller window will lend itself better to DBM as it will be harder to load from the top. But then DBM will change the inlet on the stock, and so on. I kind of left the door open for DBM and G2 action on the tier 2 version since weight wasn't really a big issue on that version. Heck, it only exists because some folks actually wanted a heavier version than the original concept.

In my mind, a tac-style action and DBM system really don't fit on the Tier 1 type of build. The goal for that one was as light as possible. Which means it is probably going to be carried a lot. When not slung, most folks carry the rifle on the natural balance point right under the action area. It needs to be comfortable and fit in the contour of your hand. Which is hard to do with a big metal box protruding down. That's why we won't be offering a DBM version on that one, but if you can live with the smaller loading port, we'll gladly sub a G2 in there for you.

Ultimately, we don't want to do too many substitutions or variants on this one after we land on the final blue print. Not because we don't want to give everyone exactly what they want, but because we want to keep the pricing at about 2/3rds of normal costs for this deal. Keeping the parts list and workflow streamlined helps a bunch with that.

Aw I see what you mean. I take it the gen 2 is only available in a sa? I just liked the prefit possibility later on down the road.

[bboswell]

Dammit

I see this costing me a rifle I didn’t know I needed plus a stock for my existing rifle.

[bloodtrail18]

All builds will be threaded, and include cerakote.

I've never had a bolt gun with a threaded barrel. Should I go with a brake on a 280AI? If so, what brakes do y'all have?

[gfulton]

Wait for final testing. Maybe I'll be able to decide on a caliber by then...

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