Thanks for all of the responses and great info. I will be getting APR to build my rifle.
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I’m gunna be that guy. I have nothing against APR but I will say since they are a sight sponsor they get plenty of work off this page. I have and had many of the big names and currently use one smith exclusively and my guns are garunteed .5 moa and they are shooting .25 moa it not better consistently with hand loads. Do your homework. Their are other smiths out there as good or better with the same pricing if not better. Find the smith that specializes in the type of gun you want before deciding on one. Some guys are great at .20 and .22 rifles. Will the other might specialize .284-.30 Guns. Find who does what you want the best.
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My best 5 shot group was with Hornady prescision hunter and is just a hair under half an inch... But I don't shoot paper much and haven't tested many offerings
Taken it out to 1k consistently with Prime ammo
If it's 800 or closer and I want to hit it... It's in trouble
I have seen APR guns that shoot in the .1s
Your not going to find a better bunch of guys that want to take care of thier customers.Last edited by catslayer; 11-22-2018, 03:17 PM.
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Originally posted by hoyt21 View PostI’m gunna be that guy. I have nothing against APR but I will say since they are a sight sponsor they get plenty of work off this page. I have and had many of the big names and currently use one smith exclusively and my guns are garunteed .5 moa and they are shooting .25 moa it not better consistently with hand loads. Do your homework. Their are other smiths out there as good or better with the same pricing if not better. Find the smith that specializes in the type of gun you want before deciding on one. Some guys are great at .20 and .22 rifles. Will the other might specialize .284-.30 Guns. Find who does what you want the best.
Lots of us out there building out of the same general pool of components. Pretty much all of us, really. I'm certainly not going to say we're "better" than any other builder out there, because there are LOTS of great ones. But I will say none are cutting chambers any straighter than we are right now. Probably many just as straight, but not "better". I have hundreds of log sheets to back that up, and an open door policy that allows anybody to come into the shop and watch their rifle being built and see the numbers in real time. Again, I appreciate accurate rifles more than most no matter who built them, and am happy to see more folks choosing this path regardless of who they choose to do the work.
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Originally posted by Stick1 View Post
The 6.5 CM is a great example going the other direction. High quality and many choices of ammo, but big lot to lot variations. I keep cases of Hornady 140 ELDM on hand for the demo guns. I have had cases that averaged a little under 1/2" in all of the demo guns. Right now we have a case thats running around 7/8" in all of them. Had a lot 2 years ago that was worse, and one earlier this year that was 1/4" - 3/8" or better in the demo guns. On average its right around 1/2". My point being, we could probably offer a 1/2" guarantee on those guns, but an odd lot of ammo would fail it and it would have nothing to do with the rifle itself.
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Robert
Alamo Precision Rifles
I think thats what Im experiencing. The first box of hornady cut the same hole at 100 out of my CM. The other day it may have been an inch (I didnt pull the target) with the same bullet, different lot. However, I was experiencing some frustration with the range god running the deck
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Originally posted by hoyt21 View PostI’m gunna be that guy. I have nothing against APR but I will say since they are a sight sponsor they get plenty of work off this page. I have and had many of the big names and currently use one smith exclusively and my guns are garunteed .5 moa and they are shooting .25 moa it not better consistently with hand loads. Do your homework. Their are other smiths out there as good or better with the same pricing if not better. Find the smith that specializes in the type of gun you want before deciding on one. Some guys are great at .20 and .22 rifles. Will the other might specialize .284-.30 Guns. Find who does what you want the best.
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Originally posted by Null90 View PostThanks for all of the responses and great info. I will be getting APR to build my rifle.
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Originally posted by RShockley View PostYou will most likely enjoy any rifle you choose to have them build for you. I don't really have much for pictures of groups but did take my new 6.5 CM from the TBH build out to Triple C a few days ago to stretch its legs a bit. Even in a very strong wind I was able to score hits out to 1400 pretty consistently and even a few at 1500. That is even with factory ammo shooting Hornady Precision Hunter 143gr ELD-X. Having to hold 9 mils to the left of a target and still hitting the right edge of a 30 inch target at 1500 yards is a decent amount of cross wind. The thing shoots better then I can and that is all I can ask for.
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