Why buy/use a single shot rifle?

[crimson-talon]

What round is that Cajun?


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[Texas Grown]

I have a break open single shot 12ga fully rifled slug gun with a 4-12x40 on top, that weighs 12 lbs dressed out. What I like about break opens are they are easy to shoot right or left handed. I'm right handed. And I had to take a left handed shot last year, off handed at 85 yards from a ladder stand. Cause the deer came in on my right side at a 90 degree. I've done a lot of shooting left handed when I was younger, both rifle and pistol. And this was a situation where that payed off.

[Cajun Blake]

that's sexy right there. what round is that?

What round is that Cajun?

It's a custom .17 caliber cartridge I designed 15 yrs ago with the help of my late friend and small caliber mentor, Blaine Eddy. The baddest coyote hunter I ever met (see pic below of his winter harvest). Blaine grew up near Clearfield, UT and spent countless winters in the Wasatch Mtns. on the ID/UT border. He hunted alone during November/December months,and didn't return home until the mini freezer located in the back of his Tacoma 4x4 was full of 40+coyote skins. He routinely killed 125-150 coyotes a year during the prime 45 day stretch where pelts were the finest. He worked 9 months out the year pouring and breaking up cement slabs. The other 3 months he lived to be one with nature and kill songdogs.

As a teenager, Blaine hung out in P.O. Ackley's gunshop , swept the floor, and asked thousands of questions about small calibers and Ackley Improved cartridges. Blaine got to be good friends with Mike Bellm who married P.O.'s daughter. Blaine did most of the load development for Bellm's proprietary TC Contender cartridges.

Being an avid pelt hunter, Blaine was a huge fan of the .14 and .17 caliber wildcats. He designed the 17DT (Dog Terminator) which was a 17PPC shortened -.100. His pet load was 24 grs of Re15 which equalled 17 Remington velocities with better brass and less powder. Since I grew up shooting Benchrest competition, I wanted to design a .17 caliber that would use Berger bullets, Lapua brass, and Vihtavuori N133 powder. I shorted Blaine's DT and came up with a 17PPC -.180". I named it the 17 Little Nasty as magic happens around 21 grs of N133 pushing the 25 gr pills at 4000-4100 fps.



My first 17LN was built on a 1965 Rem 40x single shot, 22" Lilja fluted #4, McM, Jewell, etc .. The picture in question is my second Little Nasty built on a Stolle Kelbly Kodiak RB/LP single shot action, Kelbly Varminter stock, Jewell 12 ounce trigger, 22" Lilja LV contour..



Blaine with son Ian circa. 2004
approx. 250 pelts displayed for the fur-buyer to purchase

[xman59]

i had 10 rounds in my 458 socom this eve, first round was the only round it took,,, a little different shot placement may have taken her head completely off,, next time i will save the weight and reduce the mag to about 2 rounds!

[Mexico]

In my opinion single shots are inherently more accurate, not always but it's usually the case. I have two number .1 Rugers and both are tack drivers. I've never needed a follow up shot with either. To me the guns give me a ton of confidence knowing what it'll do, and 1 shot is all it takes.

[hully1029]

It's a custom .17 caliber cartridge I designed 15 yrs ago with the help of my late friend and small caliber mentor, Blaine Eddy. The baddest coyote hunter I ever met (see pic below of his winter harvest). Blaine grew up near Clearfield, UT and spent countless winters in the Wasatch Mtns. on the ID/UT border. He hunted alone during November/December months,and didn't return home until the mini freezer located in the back of his Tacoma 4x4 was full of 40+coyote skins. He routinely killed 125-150 coyotes a year during the prime 45 day stretch where pelts were the finest. He worked 9 months out the year pouring and breaking up cement slabs. The other 3 months he lived to be one with nature and kill songdogs.

As a teenager, Blaine hung out in P.O. Ackley's gunshop , swept the floor, and asked thousands of questions about small calibers and Ackley Improved cartridges. Blaine got to be good friends with Mike Bellm who married P.O.'s daughter. Blaine did most of the load development for Bellm's proprietary TC Contender cartridges.

Being an avid pelt hunter, Blaine was a huge fan of the .14 and .17 caliber wildcats. He designed the 17DT (Dog Terminator) which was a 17PPC shortened -.100. His pet load was 24 grs of Re15 which equalled 17 Remington velocities with better brass and less powder. Since I grew up shooting Benchrest competition, I wanted to design a .17 caliber that would use Berger bullets, Lapua brass, and Vihtavuori N133 powder. I shorted Blaine's DT and came up with a 17PPC -.180". I named it the 17 Little Nasty as magic happens around 21 grs of N133 pushing the 25 gr pills at 4000-4100 fps.



My first 17LN was built on a 1965 Rem 40x single shot, 22" Lilja fluted #4, McM, Jewell, etc .. The picture in question is my second Little Nasty built on a Stolle Kelbly Kodiak RB/LP single shot action, Kelbly Varminter stock, Jewell 12 ounce trigger, 22" Lilja LV contour..



Blaine with son Ian circa. 2004
approx. 250 pelts displayed for the fur-buyer to purchase

Cajun, incredible story. I appreciate you taking the time to share. Sounds like a wicked good time coming up with a wicked cool round. Again, thank you for sharing.

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[TB80]

Good stuff guys. Love the story Cajun. Thanks for sharing.

And for the record, I am aware that you can have single shot bold action rifles. My mistake for not being more specific but I think most people understood the point I was trying to make.


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[RifleBowPistol]

It's a custom .17 caliber cartridge I designed 15 yrs ago with the help of my late friend and small caliber mentor, Blaine Eddy. The baddest coyote hunter I ever met (see pic below of his winter harvest). Blaine grew up near Clearfield, UT and spent countless winters in the Wasatch Mtns. on the ID/UT border. He hunted alone during November/December months,and didn't return home until the mini freezer located in the back of his Tacoma 4x4 was full of 40+coyote skins. He routinely killed 125-150 coyotes a year during the prime 45 day stretch where pelts were the finest. He worked 9 months out the year pouring and breaking up cement slabs. The other 3 months he lived to be one with nature and kill songdogs.

As a teenager, Blaine hung out in P.O. Ackley's gunshop , swept the floor, and asked thousands of questions about small calibers and Ackley Improved cartridges. Blaine got to be good friends with Mike Bellm who married P.O.'s daughter. Blaine did most of the load development for Bellm's proprietary TC Contender cartridges.

Being an avid pelt hunter, Blaine was a huge fan of the .14 and .17 caliber wildcats. He designed the 17DT (Dog Terminator) which was a 17PPC shortened -.100. His pet load was 24 grs of Re15 which equalled 17 Remington velocities with better brass and less powder. Since I grew up shooting Benchrest competition, I wanted to design a .17 caliber that would use Berger bullets, Lapua brass, and Vihtavuori N133 powder. I shorted Blaine's DT and came up with a 17PPC -.180". I named it the 17 Little Nasty as magic happens around 21 grs of N133 pushing the 25 gr pills at 4000-4100 fps.



My first 17LN was built on a 1965 Rem 40x single shot, 22" Lilja fluted #4, McM, Jewell, etc .. The picture in question is my second Little Nasty built on a Stolle Kelbly Kodiak RB/LP single shot action, Kelbly Varminter stock, Jewell 12 ounce trigger, 22" Lilja LV contour..



Blaine with son Ian circa. 2004
approx. 250 pelts displayed for the fur-buyer to purchase

Interesting story. Ackely is someone I wish I could have spent a lot of time around. I would have loved to learn everything I could from him. I did get to spend a lot of time with a very good old gun smith, as an apprentice. I learned a good bit, but there was a whole lot I did not learn, I was always busy and as a teenager I had many other interests. Guns were high on my list, but so were multiple other things.

I like that rifle with the green stock, I am a big 700 fan. So how well do those 17s work out at longer ranges and how far do you shoot them. I have only had a 17 HMR and noticed the power seems to fall off quickly. I noticed at 250 yards, I have a lot of bullet drop or at least a lot more than I would expect.

Your buddy was definitely one hell of a coyote hunter and skinner. Skinning is one thing, I still have not gotten down for crap. I have tried skinning probably 10 coyotes, you can pretty much call everyone of them practice jobs, they came out pretty bad.

[randal]

I got a ruger no. 1 in 7mm just cause it looked cool..

[PROD49]

Why do you use a single shot rifle? Are there any benefits to using one over a bolt action or semi-auto? I get some of them look really nice, but I am wondering why people would prefer a single shot over other types of rifles. Personally I have always used a bolt action while hunting. I rarely need the second shot, but it is nice to know that it is there if necessary.

I understand why you may want one for youths and teaching kids how to shoot and hunt, but I am curious as to the advantage of the single shot over other types of actions for adults and those kids who are not learning how to hunt.

I shoot a Ruger #1 that is a tack driver. While I have several other rifles this one is my favorite and has never let me down so why change?

[Horitexan]

It's a custom .17 caliber cartridge I designed 15 yrs ago with the help of my late friend and small caliber mentor, Blaine Eddy. The baddest coyote hunter I ever met (see pic below of his winter harvest). Blaine grew up near Clearfield, UT and spent countless winters in the Wasatch Mtns. on the ID/UT border. He hunted alone during November/December months,and didn't return home until the mini freezer located in the back of his Tacoma 4x4 was full of 40+coyote skins. He routinely killed 125-150 coyotes a year during the prime 45 day stretch where pelts were the finest. He worked 9 months out the year pouring and breaking up cement slabs. The other 3 months he lived to be one with nature and kill songdogs.



As a teenager, Blaine hung out in P.O. Ackley's gunshop , swept the floor, and asked thousands of questions about small calibers and Ackley Improved cartridges. Blaine got to be good friends with Mike Bellm who married P.O.'s daughter. Blaine did most of the load development for Bellm's proprietary TC Contender cartridges.



Being an avid pelt hunter, Blaine was a huge fan of the .14 and .17 caliber wildcats. He designed the 17DT (Dog Terminator) which was a 17PPC shortened -.100. His pet load was 24 grs of Re15 which equalled 17 Remington velocities with better brass and less powder. Since I grew up shooting Benchrest competition, I wanted to design a .17 caliber that would use Berger bullets, Lapua brass, and Vihtavuori N133 powder. I shorted Blaine's DT and came up with a 17PPC -.180". I named it the 17 Little Nasty as magic happens around 21 grs of N133 pushing the 25 gr pills at 4000-4100 fps.







My first 17LN was built on a 1965 Rem 40x single shot, 22" Lilja fluted #4, McM, Jewell, etc .. The picture in question is my second Little Nasty built on a Stolle Kelbly Kodiak RB/LP single shot action, Kelbly Varminter stock, Jewell 12 ounce trigger, 22" Lilja LV contour..







Blaine with son Ian circa. 2004

approx. 250 pelts displayed for the fur-buyer to purchase

You better bring that thing when you come calling with me this winter! Lol! Wish I could have met him. That’s a heck of a haul - especially back when fur brought good money.


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[BigWes]

I've got a bolt action with a small magazine in .308 that is scoped and a single shot break open in 45-70 that has open sights. Which I use depends on my mood, how late in the season and how full (or empty) the freezer is.

The break open on the 45-70 is dang near silent while the bolt on the .308 does make some noise. I've taken the 45-70 on a hunt when a herd of pigs came in. I assumed I would have 1 shot and they'd all run. To my surprise, they jumped but pretty much stayed put after I shot my target pig. The break open was very quiet to reload (although a little slower by maybe a few seconds) and I was able to get off a shot on a 2nd before the rest of them took off.

[oneeye]

Because I like them. I have a couple of TC' s and an H&R "Buffalo Rifle." Even when I'm using a repeater I seldom load more then one round. I'm currently sitting in my deer blind with my Marlin 336 chambered in 458 American and have a round in the tube and that's it.

[Bowyer]

I once shot a deer 5 times in about 20 seconds with a break action rifle, every time I pulled the trigger I thought to myself "You missed again!" I hit him all 5 times and he never reacted to the hit.
Point being, there is no disadvantage to hunting with a single shot rifle. Just don't watch me do it!

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[bigchiefj]

I hit an elk 5 out of 8 shots with an H&R .45-70 before it ran.