Bullet Question

[M.E.B.]

Negative. 1st box has a 200 yd zero and is "+1.4" high at 100 yds. 2nd has a 100 yd zero and drops 2.9" at 200.

But doesn't that mean the SP bullets drop 1.4" between 100-200 yds?

And the Spire Point drops 2.9" between 100 and 200 yds?

[M.E.B.]

You are way over thinking this.....they’re the exact same bullet.

Maybe. But why the different name and packaging?

[cajuntec]

Box marked “SP” – For a rifle sighted in at 200 yards:
At 100 yards, it is hitting 1.4 high.
At 200 yards, it is hitting dead on.
So the drop was 1.4” at the 200 yard mark

Box marked “Spire Point” – For a rifle sighted in at 100 yards
At 100 yards, it is no longer hitting 1.4 high. It’s dead on. Keep that in mind.
At 200 yards, it is hitting 2.9 lower than it was hitting at 100 yards, with the NEW sight-in point. You can no longer use the data from the box marked SP, as we are talking about two different sight-in points.

Need proof? Look at the drops at 300, 400, and 500. They all drop more on the rifle sighted in at 100. If you were to use that same rifle and same ammo, but sight in at 200, the drops would all be different. Your initial sight-in point affects all the other drops at different ranges.

It’s the same stuff. #80255 hasn’t changed. It’s still rated at 3240 fps on both boxes, and it uses the same bullet – the #2266 (55 grain SP with cannelure).

The packaging was updated. Nothing more.

All the best,
Glenn

[M.E.B.]

Box marked “SP” – For a rifle sighted in at 200 yards:
At 100 yards, it is hitting 1.4 high.
At 200 yards, it is hitting dead on.
So the drop was 1.4” at the 200 yard mark

Box marked “Spire Point” – For a rifle sighted in at 100 yards
At 100 yards, it is no longer hitting 1.4 high. It’s dead on. Keep that in mind.
At 200 yards, it is hitting 2.9 lower than it was hitting at 100 yards, with the NEW sight-in point. You can no longer use the data from the box marked SP, as we are talking about two different sight-in points.

Need proof? Look at the drops at 300, 400, and 500. They all drop more on the rifle sighted in at 100. If you were to use that same rifle and same ammo, but sight in at 200, the drops would all be different. Your initial sight-in point affects all the other drops at different ranges.

It’s the same stuff. #80255 hasn’t changed. It’s still rated at 3240 fps on both boxes, and it uses the same bullet – the #2266 (55 grain SP with cannelure).

The packaging was updated. Nothing more.

All the best,
Glenn

Ok thanks. I've hunted 99% of the time with a Trad bow since I was 16. I'm 58 now.

The only reason I bought an AR is because Obama did not want me to have one.

The last three yrs I've used it and a suppressed .308 to hunt coyotes and I love it.

Although I shot a fair amount I've not tried to get real techy with guns until fairly recently.

Thanks for the info.

Mike.

[SaltwaterSlick]

I load for several calibers and the Hornady spire point flat base bullets have been my go to bullet for over 40 years... Factory shells of the same caliber/bullet combo with different "powder lots" may not shoot the same. You will need to check it before you go out and hunt.

[M.E.B.]

I load for several calibers and the Hornady spire point flat base bullets have been my go to bullet for over 40 years... Factory shells of the same caliber/bullet combo with different "powder lots" may not shoot the same. You will need to check it before you go out and hunt.

Thanks

[Bowyer]

Looks like ya'll have already figured this out.
Today I just happened to shoot bullets from boxes exactly like the 2 boxes that M.E.B. showed in an earlier post.
I also chronographed them just because I was using the chrono for load development in another caliber and it was already set up.
The ammo from the old box was 3100 FPS and the ammo from the new box was 3000 fps. The muzzle velocity on both boxes says 3240. I do have a 20" barrel so I am sure that's why mine are slower than whats posted on the box but the newer ammo is 100 fps slower.
After saying all that, I only saw a slight difference in point of impact at 100 yards.
My wife uses this for piggies with great results so I'm not going to let the 100 fps difference dissuade me for using them.


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[DFWPI]

Sight in at 50 yards, and don't shoot past 50 yards problem solved LOL

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[BDKeeling]

Get the 55 gr GMX bullets and you won’t go wrong on a great bullet for everything you will be shooting.


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[M.E.B.]

Get the 55 gr GMX bullets and you won’t go wrong on a great bullet for everything you will be shooting.


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Thanks Bryan.

I’ve been using the Soft Points for a while. I’ve been real happy with them. I have a pretty good stick pile and my rifle shoots them well and is sighted in with them. That’s why I was really concerned if they were the same bullet.

[cva34]

Nope. SP stands for Soft Point

Spire Point stands for Spire Point

I checked like 3 times.

Got to go with You MEB......

[Walker]

Got to go with You MEB......

Both wrong. Hornady SP is designation for spire point.

[M.E.B.]

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