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[triple_duece]

About to pull the trigger on a 300wsm. I'm a 30-06 guy using a 3.5x10 scope. Im not versed much on upper end scopes. I know this might be a repeated subject, I did search and read a lot of threads and gained some knowledge.

My question is this.... I'm looking for a scope w more magnification for ranges up to 500 yards. I'd prefer a scope that is ffp and has turrets to dial in when I have time. Where I hunt I don't have time to do this so I want moa for quick shooting. One day I plan to hunt elk so I'm thinking I will have time to dial in to have correct range and windage without holdover. My price range is 1000-1500$. Weight is not that big of a problem since the rifle is 6.9# and has a brake.

Keep responses to a 3rd grade level as I'm not familiar with the assorted acronyms. Thanks in advance.

[randal]

I'd get a night force shv.. I think you can get ffp but not 100% sure..

[randal]

I know you can get illuminated in ffp but you may not want that because depending on what state you elk hunt in I believe illuminated reticles are illegal to hunt with..

[triple_duece]

Thanks Randal. I did look at the nightforce shv 4-14x56. Also looking at meopta meostar R1 3-12x56 Rd. Also a Burris 5-25x50 Veracity 30mm.

Can you tell me some pros and cons of using a scope w the second focal plane. Not sure on the acronym.

[randal]

Thanks Randal. I did look at the nightforce shv 4-14x56. Also looking at meopta meostar R1 3-12x56 Rd. Also a Burris 5-25x50 Veracity 30mm.

Can you tell me some pros and cons of using a scope w the second focal plane. Not sure on the acronym.

I'm not a pro, but to me a con for the sfp (second focal plane) is your reticle covers up a lot more of your target at longer ranges, I like the ffp (first focal plane) because the reticle doesn't get bigger with more zoom, and if you get some kind of moa reticle or something You can use the reticle instead of adjusting your turrets.. at any zoom it's still x amount of moa between lines.. a sfp scope moa between lines will change depending on zoom.. Someone else should chime in as I'm no expert and if your only wanting to elk hunt and shoot 500 yards it may not be a must to have ffp..

[texasdeerhunter]

I don't think you can go wrong with a Swarovski z3 or a Zeiss. I think you can get both for less than $2k. My Swarovski is a 4x12x50 and I have no problem shooting out to 500 yards with it

[Mike D]

I'm not a pro, but to me a con for the sfp (second focal plane) is your reticle covers up a lot more of your target at longer ranges, I like the ffp (first focal plane) because the reticle doesn't get bigger with more zoom, and if you get some kind of moa reticle or something You can use the reticle instead of adjusting your turrets.. at any zoom it's still x amount of moa between lines.. a sfp scope moa between lines will change depending on zoom.. Someone else should chime in as I'm no expert and if your only wanting to elk hunt and shoot 500 yards it may not be a must to have ffp..

This is exactly backwards. On SFP your reticle stays the same throughout the magnification range. FFP the reticle grows and shrinks with magnification.

I used to be an FFP fan but if you aren't ranging with it it's not worth the extra $$ IMO. I rarely found myself using the feature of a FFP scope because typically at the distances you will need to start holding over you would be at max power anyway. SFP scopes drop subtensions are only accurate at one magnification level, typically max power.


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[Kevin]

I love my Z5 3.5-18x with custom dial for yardage.

[Bowtechshooter]

I have a nightforce shv 5-20x56 on my 7 mag. Took it out the other day and was
Shooting a 3" group at 500 off a truck hood just using a
Bipod

[Doug Roberts]

FFP is used to find the range of your target and accurately dial in your firing solution because the distance between the markings in the scope stay constant at all magnifications.

On a SFP the markings in the scope were calibrated at a specific magnification. If you try to use your markings in the scope to


Example below

FFP
500 yards at 4X : 1 MIL = 18"
500 yards at 20X : 1MIL = 18"

SFP ( not exact- example of a 4-14X40 scope calibrated at 12X)
500 yards at 4X : 1MIL =72"
500 Yards at 12X : 1MIL = 18"


Hope this helped.


SO...

Sightron SIII, Sig Sauer, EOTech, Leupold and Burris are a few that are FFP in that price range

[randal]

This is exactly backwards. On SFP your reticle stays the same throughout the magnification range. FFP the reticle grows and shrinks with magnification.

I used to be an FFP fan but if you aren't ranging with it it's not worth the extra $$ IMO. I rarely found myself using the feature of a FFP scope because typically at the distances you will need to start holding over you would be at max power anyway. SFP scopes drop subtensions are only accurate at one magnification level, typically max power.


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Yeah lol it's been a while for me.. I'm glad you corrected that before some one got mad after ordering a scope

[tgridley]

Huskamaw is a good choice.

[mavrick]

None of the scopes listed have exposed turrets. I wouldn't be buying a Huskamaw.

[brownchristian]

Burris XTR II

[175gr7.62]

The SWFA 5-20 HD is tough to beat.


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