Experienced Reloaders?!!

[Cajun Blake]

Wow! I'm onboard with the Wilson. What supplier are you buying your Wilson products through Blake

I buy my reloading stuff from Sinclair or The Shooters Corner which is operated by my friend Bob White. When old shooters retire from the sport, he buys them out and resells their reloading and shooting equipment and discounted prices, 30-45% off retail

Wow, he had throws from 43.7 - 44.1. While that is much more accurate than I have ever seen throws I am extremely surprised that this is acceptable without weighing and trickling.

can't speak for that guys powder dropping technique as mine is done slower, more precise, and charges are always within .1 grs.

I think there's some really good advice listed above. None really bad just differing opinions.

To those of you who use the high end powder measures by Harrels or Jones, how do the work with long extruded powder like is commonly used in today's magnums and even some standard calibers...?

To the OP, these precision measures are $500 plus. IMO-the advantage is they're fast and simple once set up.

I load for the following calibers: .17, .20, .22, .24, .25, 6.5 - don't own any magnums so I have zero experience with H-1000. I use Vihtavhouri powder 80% of the time and Hogdon or Western Powders the remaining percent

You can buy a new Harrels powder measure for $175 - $250 depending on model. Mr Lynwood will ship it to your door, and you can send him a check later .

How do these Whidden dies compare in price to the upper end Reddings Blake??

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John Whidden is a World Champion LR shooter and brilliant mind. IMO, his reloading dies are comparable to, if not better than the high end Redding competition stuff. You can send John 3 fired cases and he will make you a custom set of dies to the exact specs of your chamber. John's craftsmanship and detail to precision is best in the business

[Artos]

Once my load is dialed in, I simply make note of the clicks on the Bruno (similar to Harrells).

The high end measure is my most treasured tool for reloading...I strive for most loads with a powder that gives me the accuracy & velocity at 95%+ case capacity & simply give them a glance over once powder is dumped.

There is simply no need to weigh every round unless you are an extreme long range shooter.

[Slick8]

Wow, I thought the Harrels was much more than that.

I may have to look into the Whidden dies as well.

[x1jett]

Good info. In!

[ItsLeo]

Cool thanks. I have one, a 257wby, in my safe and that's it

Save that one for your last reloading efforts.

Most cartridges you seat the bullet out far enough to just touch or be slightly off the lands when chambered. This gives the bullet a nice consistent start down the bore.

The 257WBY is an exception. The freebore in the chamber sets the lands too far out to reach with the bullet ogive without exceeding maximum overall length for the cartridge. It's not safe. Don't do it.

Annealing case necks and crimping gives you a more consistent neck tension. Consistent neck tension makes for a more repeatable jump from cartridge to lands. For me, it really helps accuracy when reloading my WBY cartridges.

[DarrellS]

go with a tumbler and steel pins. http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/713...FQeEaQod-lYJag

Blake has forgot more about guns than I'll ever know, but Ill second this. Best (cleanest,easiest) decision Ive made.

[CWendling]

Like Cajun said, if you have a good measure, they will all be within .1g. I really dont use long extruded powders like IMR and also come from a benchrest/varmint competition background and often do my loading at the shooting bench. Especially when competing or working up loads. With ball or short extruded, its super accuarate. So, its not bad advise. If you know a certain setting is x number of grains for a powder, then you can make adjustments to the measure to figure get where you need to be for accuracy and conditions. Also requires keeping logs and such, but its very safe and very repeatable and very accurate. On the other hand, i have seen some electric scales that are less than accurate when dropping individual IMR type grains and dont register them (meaning the drop weight reads, trickle a few grains in, and if you lift and reset pan it will read different than it did when trickling). In that instance, a measure that throws a known accurate amount is more accurate than trickling into an inaccurate scale. Each to their own, but id sure rather have a measure that threw consistent weights than weigh each charge, which would not be practical at the bench

[Greyman]

I digress....The OP clearly stated he will be loading at home, He has 5 cal. he will be reloading IF he decides to get into it. I would not question the accuracy of the Harrels. What neither of you guys stated is He will have to have a scale to find a given charge weight. Which includes dialing out the harrels make a drop, weigh it, dial it out weigh it etc. etc. until he finds his desired charge for a given gun, bullet, powder etc. I could go on and on. Both of you stated you come from a competition background and are giving advise from a competitive view. I know when you are at competition you are using probably one Rifle and one particular bullet, and a specific brand of powder for a given event. That is when the Harrels shines, because you can dial up or down depending on the conditions that day. The OP will have to find what recipe each of his gun likes, which is where the scale and weighing every load comes into play. Reread the first couple posts from the OP.
Richard

[Artos]

...and once he has his recipe down & clicks marked on the Harrells, there is NO need to go back & weigh every round or even go back to the scale with that same powder.

Not a hard concept to grasp...Greyman, you said it was bad advice to say you do not need to weigh every round with a top shelf measure. Again, You do NOT need to measure every round once you know the recipe & dial in the measure. That is it.

...and yes Blake / others mentioned a scale. How else do you dial in the measure??

[watchale]

Blake has forgot more about guns than I'll ever know, but Ill second this. Best (cleanest,easiest) decision Ive made.

I just bought a thumblers tumbler too . It's in the mail and I can't wait to clean some brass lol

[watchale]

Do you guys use lemi shine and dawn with your thumblers?

[DarrellS]

I buy my reloading stuff from Sinclair or The Shooters Corner which is operated by my friend Bob White. When old shooters retire from the sport, he buys them out and resells their reloading and shooting equipment and discounted prices, 30-45% off retail



can't speak for that guys powder dropping technique as mine is done slower, more precise, and charges are always within .1 grs.



I load for the following calibers: .17, .20, .22, .24, .25, 6.5 - don't own any magnums so I have zero experience with H-1000. I use Vihtavhouri powder 80% of the time and Hogdon or Western Powders the remaining percent

You can buy a new Harrels powder measure for $175 - $250 depending on model. Mr Lynwood will ship it to your door, and you can send him a check later .




John Whidden is a World Champion LR shooter and brilliant mind. IMO, his reloading dies are comparable to, if not better than the high end Redding competition stuff. You can send John 3 fired cases and he will make you a custom set of dies to the exact specs of your chamber. John's craftsmanship and detail to precision is best in the business

Who is this Mr Lynwood you speak of, I'd like to look into ordering a Harrels.

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[cattlelackranch]

Who is this Mr Lynwood you speak of, I'd like to look into ordering a Harrels.

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Lynwood and Walter Harrell

http://www.harrellsprec.com

[bboswell]

OK, I have a Harrell's Premium in my cart for order and got curious.

With exception of 556 everything I load is long extruded powders, Viht165, 4831SC, H1000 etc. with my current powder measure there is a marked difference in charge based on technique, i.e. Slow easy throw will be less than firmly opening the charge handle which will be less than firmly opening and them bumping back the charge handle.

Is the Harrell's sensitive to technique like this? Based on videos I have watched I think it would be.

[Greyman]

I am looking at possibly getting into the hobby and precision of reloading my own. I'm not one who likes to buy half azz stuff but don't have to have the best most expensive either. It seems like the kits all compromise somewhere by sticking with one brand or the other. Ive also heard and read they don't include EVERYTHING needed for long range precision reloading either. Ive searched and searched for a comprehensive list for beginners looking to jump in the deep end and can't seem to find one that doesn't just include bits and pieces.

I was hoping you guys if you get time you might post what you think are must haves (wants and needs) to not only do it right but also make it a bit easier. Single stage press will be all I need for the volume so nothing crazy there. Seems Forster is a very well liked press there. The rest of the pieces I would like to hear from you guys on what works well for you. I don't have to have it all for under $1k but don't need to drop $3k to begin with either.

Thanks

Once my load is dialed in, I simply make note of the clicks on the Bruno (similar to Harrells).

The high end measure is my most treasured tool for reloading...I strive for most loads with a powder that gives me the accuracy & velocity at 95%+ case capacity & simply give them a glance over once powder is dumped.

There is simply no need to weigh every round unless you are an extreme long range shooter.

Here let me help you out ARTOS....The OP is looking into LONG RANGE PRECISION where if you don't weigh every charge you will not be successful
That is it....
reading and comprehension.
not a hard concept to grasp Artos....