Who can shoot my SBR/Suppressor?

[KLAPPER]

I copied this somewhere else but here's my question

I'm trying to understand who can legally shoot a registered NFA weapon, and how that answer changed based upon whether the weapon is registered to an individual versus a trust.

First case: Assume I have a NFA weapon registered to me as an individual. If I understand things correctly, my wife cannot have access to this weapon due to it being registered specifically to me.

Can my wife shoot this weapon while in my presence at the range?

Second case: I understand that by creating a trust (or corporation) and making my wife a trustee (or officer) that now both her and I can have access to this weapon. But what about third parties?

What if I am at a range with a friend and I want to let him shoot my NFA weapon in my presence?
What if I am enrolled in a carbine course and I want to let an instructor handle my weapon for training purposes?

What legal structure, if any, do people set up to handle situations like this?

P.S. - I assume the answers to the above are the same for all NFA weapons (Machine Guns, SBRs, Supressors, etc.) If I missed something and the answer changes depending on the weapon type, please let me know.

Thank you very much in advance for any clarity or links to clear answers you can provide.

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[Christianhuff]

I would think as long as you are there and posses the proper paperwork you can have whomever you want shoot it. We always swap weapons sthe range to shoot and they are all suppressed. I just wouldn't send them to the range with i without yout.

[qWuARk556]

Disclaimer: Im not Law Enforcement. Contact your local authorities and/or the BATF for more detailed information.

Anyone can fire the weapon.

Only the person who is licensed and to whom the weapon is registered may store, transport, or otherwise possess the firearm. The weapon, an SBR and Suppressor, are actually 2 seperate entities and both must be registered to you.

The advantage of a trust, in my understanding, is that authorized officers of the trust are able to possess and transport the firearms. There are also purchasing and storage advantages to a trust.

You cannot legally allow anyone to borrow the weapon, or its individual firearms (SBR and Suppressor).

If you intend on leaving the weapon for extended periods of time my understanding is that you need to store it at a licensed dealer, but Im unclear on this point.

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[KLAPPER]

My concern was taking pictures or video of my wife or child shooting the weapon, is shooting the weapon not possession of?

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[dcw]

As long as you are there and have proper paperwork you are good.

[Gherkin05]

Anyone as long as you are present. No one can travel with it etc.... has to be within your "control".

[Buff]

My wife is not in my trust, lawyer said it was not a problem

[35remington]

I copied this somewhere else but here's my question

I'm trying to understand who can legally shoot a registered NFA weapon, and how that answer changed based upon whether the weapon is registered to an individual versus a trust.

First case: Assume I have a NFA weapon registered to me as an individual. If I understand things correctly, my wife cannot have access to this weapon due to it being registered specifically to me.

Can my wife shoot this weapon while in my presence at the range?

Second case: I understand that by creating a trust (or corporation) and making my wife a trustee (or officer) that now both her and I can have access to this weapon. But what about third parties?

What if I am at a range with a friend and I want to let him shoot my NFA weapon in my presence?
What if I am enrolled in a carbine course and I want to let an instructor handle my weapon for training purposes?

What legal structure, if any, do people set up to handle situations like this?

P.S. - I assume the answers to the above are the same for all NFA weapons (Machine Guns, SBRs, Supressors, etc.) If I missed something and the answer changes depending on the weapon type, please let me know.

Thank you very much in advance for any clarity or links to clear answers you can provide.

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Individual: anyone who is not a prohibited person can shoot the NFA item in your presence. "Presence" probably means line-of-sight.

Trust: anyone who is not a prohibited person can shoot the NFA item in any trustee's presence. "Presence" still probably means line-of-sight.

[hoythitman]

You are in possession of if you are in the line of sight of the item.

If there is a trust any trustee can possess, transport, fire, etc.. the NFA item.

[Sleepy]

My concern was taking pictures or video of my wife or child shooting the weapon, is shooting the weapon not possession of?

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I see pictures of kids with their LDP's and suppressed rifles all the time. I can tell you those suppressors are not registered to those kids. I don't think you have anything to worry about there.

[JakeGraves]

You are good as long as you are with the NFA item or she is on trust. You couldn't let her take it if she wasn't on trust to go shoot by herself.

[Horitexan]

The answers above are correct. Any member of the trust can posses and transport the NFA items and anyone can shoot them as long as a member of the trust is in the presence of that person.

Just like a machine gun shoot - anyone can go and shoot the MGs that are owned by someone else that has them registered. Those shoots are super fun! Just FYI

Don't make the whole NFA thing more spooky/scary than its. It's not real complicated and it's pretty much common sense. I think it's smart to go the trust route and add EVERY family member and close friend you think might EVER be in possession.

I see pictures of kids with their LDP's and suppressed rifles all the time. I can tell you those suppressors are not registered to those kids. I don't think you have anything to worry about there.

I don't know about all the kids but our kids are both trustees and they were 9 & 12 when the trust was formed. Not that they would hunt alone but it seemed smart to add even our youngest to the trust, for the future. Especially since they will, one day, inherit it all.


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[35remington]

Don't make the whole NFA thing more spooky/scary than its. It's not real complicated and it's pretty much common sense. I think it's smart to go the trust route and add EVERY family member and close friend you think might EVER be in possession.

How do you deal with ownership and legacy when you appoint so many trustees?

[qWuARk556]

My concern was taking pictures or video of my wife or child shooting the weapon, is shooting the weapon not possession of?

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No, its not possession or transport. Ive shot a few strangers weapons that are SBR/suppressed. No BATF breaking any doors down.

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[KLAPPER]

I didn't think it was a big deal, I got to thinking last night about ranges that have full autos and stuff that you can rent

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