Geissele Triggers

[lungbuster1985]

So, I've been slowly acquiring parts for 2 SBRs as I wait for my form 1s to come back. I have been shopping triggers recently, and I'm set on Geissele. I was pretty sure I wanted the super semi auto-enhanced (SSA-E) trigger, but after testing some in firing blocks I really like the super 3 gun (S3G) trigger. Well today I was on geissele's website reading reviews on all the triggers. Some people were saying that the SSA-E was a little light and they weren't comfortable with someone unfamiliar with the gun being able to handle it. Also someone said the S3G would bump fire if you're not careful. I don't want to put anything in these guns that is a safety concern for others at the range, since my wife and buddies often shoot my guns too. I also don't want anything so light that it could contribute to an accidental discharge if I'm chasing hogs through the woods, or happen to run a carbine course. The S3G didn't feel like it would be an issue, but reviews state otherwise. I guess I'm just looking for someone with experience on these triggers to tell me if those concerns are valid, or if it's just internet talk. I would just go with the Super semi auto (SSA), which seemes to be the recommended trigger for CQB and home defense, but I liked the feel of the others so much more. I just don't have any real world experience with these triggers, only test firing in a block at the store. I know some of you guys run these high end FCGs in your guns, so please enlighten me.

[WTJim]

SSA-E in my 6.5G, Like it but I do warn it is light on the 2nd stage...

[lungbuster1985]

I liked the light second stage, but I was controlled firing it in a trigger block not true shooting at the range. The S3G is only single stage and I really liked that, but I'm wondering if either are too light for general carbine applications. Would you have any concern with someone touching off a round on that rifle without meaning too?

[35remington]

So, I've been slowly acquiring parts for 2 SBRs as I wait for my form 1s to come back. I have been shopping triggers recently, and I'm set on Geissele. I was pretty sure I wanted the super semi auto-enhanced (SSA-E) trigger, but after testing some in firing blocks I really like the super 3 gun (S3G) trigger. Well today I was on geissele's website reading reviews on all the triggers. Some people were saying that the SSA-E was a little light and they weren't comfortable with someone unfamiliar with the gun being able to handle it. Also someone said the S3G would bump fire if you're not careful. I don't want to put anything in these guns that is a safety concern for others at the range, since my wife and buddies often shoot my guns too. I also don't want anything so light that it could contribute to an accidental discharge if I'm chasing hogs through the woods, or happen to run a carbine course. The S3G didn't feel like it would be an issue, but reviews state otherwise. I guess I'm just looking for someone with experience on these triggers to tell me if those concerns are valid, or if it's just internet talk. I would just go with the Super semi auto (SSA), which seemes to be the recommended trigger for CQB and home defense, but I liked the feel of the others so much more. I just don't have any real world experience with these triggers, only test firing in a block at the store. I know some of you guys run these high end FCGs in your guns, so please enlighten me.

1. There are FOUR safety rules for a reason.
2. Bill Geissele doesn't sell triggers that accidentally discharge. Negligently? Sure. That's on the shooter, not Bill.
3. Several people who have shot my SD-E have double tapped it accidentally. They were waiting for the "drag-thru-gravel-hit-a-boulder-is-the-safety-still-on" trigger pull that comes with most factory triggers. The Geissele products are so smooth that people aren't expecting it.

[WTJim]

Lungbuster,

Only if said person did not utilize proper shooting form and follow safety rules such as don't put finger on trigger until you are ready to fire. It by no means is a light target trigger but it is not idiot proof either.

[lungbuster1985]

Good deal guys. I understand that Geissele would never put a product out that would intentionally compromise safety. I was just wondering if the worries people had were really warranted, they didn't feel that way to me when I tested them. But again it wasn't real world testing. Even the small recoil of a 5.56 can make a difference. Just trying to do all my homework before buying 2 of these bad boys. I guess I'm gonna just get what I like and tell people to mind the trigger, since it's not your typical garbage AR FCG. Either of y'all tried the S3G in comparison to the Enhanced?

[Southernshiver]

I have 2 of the ssa-e triggers very light but I love them. Also have a Timney Calvin elite in my Remington 700 set at 8oz. My rule of thumb with those is before live ammo is loaded they dry fire it a few times to get the feel of the trigger.

[lungbuster1985]

I like the idea of having newbies dry fire a couple times before loading up. I think I might just go with the SSA-E, I think the S3G might just be a little too touchy. I may buy one of each and see what I like better. Always wanted a 3 gun rig, what better reason than that I already have the trigger.

[35remington]

I like the idea of having newbies dry fire a couple times before loading up. I think I might just go with the SSA-E, I think the S3G might just be a little too touchy. I may buy one of each and see what I like better. Always wanted a 3 gun rig, what better reason than that I already have the trigger.

I know the last thing you need right now is another trigger to consider, but LaRue's $200 triggers are now $125 for those who are willing to wait a little while for delivery. I ordered one.

[Southernshiver]

It's just something that I've always done and not just for newbies it's anyone that fires a rifle or pistol of mine that has a really light trigger. Majority of people just use stock triggers and that's what they expect. So I just do it to be safe for themselves and others around us.

[lungbuster1985]

Thanks for the input guys. I've been eyeballing that larue trigger also. Might have to buy one since its on sale. I really just wanted to know if these geissele triggers were that light of a pull that people would need warning or I would think were too light for blasting away at the range. I know they are night and day better than mil spec, but I'm not looking for a hair trigger on my AR either.

[cajuntec]

I wouldn't have a problem with my son shooting any of my AR's, as he has good trigger control and is safe. But I do warn him about the lighter triggers so they don't surprise him. He hasn't had a problem with them. I have an SSA, S3G and two SDE's.

As advertised on Geissele's site:

SSA - 2.5 first stage / 2 second stage for a total 4.5 pull weight
S3G is 4 pounds (adjustable to 3.25 with spring change)
SDE is 2.3 first stage / 1.2 second stage for a total 3.5 pull weight

I measured mine 5 times each with a Wheeler spring pull gauge (not the most accurate, but it's what I currently have to measure):

SSA in my .308:
2 3/4 first stage, 4 5/8 overall
2 3/4 first stage, 4 3/4 overall
2 3/4 first stage, 4 1/2 overall
2 7/8 first stage, 4 5/8 overall
2 3/4 first stage, 4 3/4 overall
Average - 2.775 first stage, 4.65 overall
I’m slightly heavier than advertised on both first stage and overall trigger pull weight

S3G in my .223 Wylde:
2 5/8 (x5 - every single time)
Overall, I’m significantly lighter than advertised.

SDE in my .300 AAC:
2 1/2 first stage, 3 1/2 overall
2 1/2 first stage, 3 1/2 overall
2 1/4 first stage, 3 1/4 overall
2 1/2 first stage, 3 1/2 overall
2 1/4 first stage, 3 1/8 overall
Average - 2.4 first stage, 3.375 overall
I’m slightly heavier than advertised on the first stage, and slightly lighter overall

SDE in my 6.8 SPC:
2 1/8 first stage, 2 3/4 overall
2 1/4 first stage, 2 3/4 overall
2 1/8 first stage, 2 3/4 overall
2 1/8 first stage, 2 5/8 overall
2 1/8 first stage, 2 3/4 overall
Average - 2.15 first stage, 2.725 overall
I’m slightly lighter than advertised on the first stage, and significantly lighter overall

All the best,
Glenn

[lungbuster1985]

Thanks Glenn, that's exactly the kind of info I was needing. A direct side by side comparison. I'm pretty sure the S3G is going to be a little light for what I want. I had pretty much set on the SSA-E, until I looked at the LaRue tactical trigger again. They have lots more reviews now than last time I checked. Most people compare it to the SSA-E, some even like it more. The price pretty much sold me. I can almost get 2 for the price of 1 Geissele, since I'm not in a hurry. Plus LaRue is made right here in Texas, can't beat that. Again... Thanks for all the insight guys, I can't wait to get these stamps back and have some short barreled fun.

[Fightinaggies]

I know the last thing you need right now is another trigger to consider, but LaRue's $200 triggers are now $125 for those who are willing to wait a little while for delivery. I ordered one.

Thanks for the heads up on this just cost me $125! Ordered one for my MP 15-22 as I had been hesitant to drop 3 bills on a trigger for a .22 but at the $125 price point it makes since. I have a SG3 and an SSA-E in my two rifles now so I'll be able to give a comparison whenever it comes in.

[twobanger]

I bought an SD-C for my .300 BO SBR. I got the approval for it a couple of weeks ago, but I'm waiting for the suppressor stamp to come through before building it. 2.5 first stage 2.0 second 4.5 total. I have a SD3G in my M&P 15-22 Steel Challenge rifle and it's amazing in that gun, but I wouldn't want it in a home defense or precision build.