30.06/30.07 means no where on property...

[WCB]

If a gas station is posted on their doors does that mean I'm in violation pumping gas in the parking lot?
Was pumping gas at a Chevron and was going to go in afterward and noticed both signs are now posted. Use to be no sign posted and now both...

Guess I never thought about the "property" part as very few, if any, stations had a 30.06 before we fought for our rights.

PC §30.06. TRESPASS BY HOLDER OF LICENSE TO CARRY CONCEALED
HANDGUN.
Text of section effective on Jan. 1, 2016
a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder:
(1) carries a concealed handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter
411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that entry on the property by a license holder with a
concealed handgun was forbidden.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the
property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice
to the person by oral or written communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) “Entry” has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).

PC §30.07. TRESPASS BY LICENSE HOLDER WITH AN OPENLY CARRIED
HANDGUN.
Text of section effective on Jan. 1, 2016
(a) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder:
(1) openly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter
LICENSE TO CARRY A HANDGUN LAWS
46
LICENSE TO CARRY A HANDGUN LAWS
47
411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent; and
(2) received notice that entry on the property by a license holder openly
carrying a handgun was forbidden.
(b) For purposes of this section, a person receives notice if the owner of the
property or someone with apparent authority to act for the owner provides notice
to the person by oral or written communication.
(c) In this section:
(1) “Entry” has the meaning assigned by Section 30.05(b).

[i Be Profin]

I've noticed that also in a few places
I'll shop elsewhere

[Ironman]

I'm beginning to think you have a sign fetish.

[PEC]

My instructor said parking lot and sidewalks were not covered by the 30.06 &30.07 signs posted on the doors.

[LFD2037]

Interesting conundrum. If you never approached the doors, yet, how were you to know? Signs @ the entrance of the parking lot/fuel pumps? Hmmmmmm.

[More Liberty]

When you pull into the gas station you can still have it in your vehicle obviously.

[txfireguy2003]

I thought it used to say "premises" not property, but I could be mistaken. Premises, at that time and for that section, referred to the building.

[John Paul]

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My instructor said parking lot and sidewalks were not covered by the 30.06 &30.07 signs posted on the doors.][/quote]


This is what my instructor also taught this morning.

[DRT]

I wouldn't worry about it too much because they would never get another dime of my money.

[WKH2213]

Texas Carry said not in violation
(Terry Holcomb)

[WCB]

I'm beginning to think you have a sign fetish.

Now that tiny little sign was comical.

My instructor said parking lot and sidewalks were not covered by the 30.06 &30.07 signs posted on the doors.

Wouldn't be the first time an instructor told opinion and not fact...

Texas Carry said not in violation
(Terry Holcomb)

Any case law or opinion?

[tvc184]

I thought it used to say "premises" not property, but I could be mistaken. Premises, at that time and for that section, referred to the building.

This is from people confusing or crossing two different laws.

In Chapter 30 Trespassing it uses the term "property".

In Chapter 46 Weapons it uses the term "premises" which it defines as inside of building. For example under 30.07 it says, " (1) openly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent;"

For trespassing it only says on the property of another.

[txfireguy2003]

This is from people confusing or crossing two different laws.

In Chapter 30 Trespassing it uses the term "property".

In Chapter 46 Weapons it uses the term "premises" which it defines as inside of building. For example under 30.07 it says, " (1) openly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, on property of another without effective consent;"

For trespassing it only says on the property of another.

Okay, I'll buy that, makes sense that you can control your whole property rather than just buildings on your property. Still, I swear I remember there being something, case law maybe, that basically said you couldn't post 30.06 for the parking lots etc. Maybe it had something to do with public access and being an unsecured area (as in no fence with limited entry/exit?

[WCB]

So Terry, as per trespass laws, the parking lot is also off limits for LTC at said gas station?

[NMStickFlinger3]

What they don't know wont hurt them IMO!!!