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    41P ruling

    I googled looking for an expected implementation or ruling date, but all I've found are blogs guessing at January 2015, March 2015, and May 2015. All of them were written in 2013 or 2014. Nothing is recent. Is there anywhere to find out for sure? Are they still responding to comments?

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    APRIL 29, 2015
    ATF Confirms No Implementation for 41P for quite some time
    by David M. Goldman


    In the April 27th issue of Bullet Points, the NSSF wrote the following update

    NO IMPLEMENTATION YET SEEN FOR NOTICE 41P AS FINAL RULE . . . NSSF has confirmed with ATF that the bureau is unlikely to publish Notice 41P (NFA Trusts) as a Final Rule for quite some time. This is in part because EPS resources are being diverted to help process the 310,000 public comments received in response to the armor piercing ammunition framework proposal. In addition, it seems ATF has not prepared to revise the NFA database so that it can track “responsible persons” for NFA trusts. The proposed rule would require the responsible person(s) on an NFA Trust be fingerprinted.

    This seems consistent with the statements made by the ATF at the Annual Firearms Seminar in Nashville earlier this month when we reported on many of the statements ATF made including poorly written trusts. Remember, a properly written gun trust should give you and others involved with the trust guidance what you can and can’t do instead of leave it up to the individual to determine what to do.


    In short: you remember when they tried to ban green tip 5.56? That added to a backlog of comments from the folks against 41p. They are reading and replying to comments before anything can be done on either.

    So if you wrote the atf like myself and others: Thanks.
    If you didn't: Try better next time. . Even if you write the same type of unreadable babble that is seen here daily they must read it and reply to it. Which keeps them from implementing anything.

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      #3
      Hmm OK. And im assuming whenever they come back withthe ruking thats it? No changes or revisions can be made? I was under the impression green tip ammo was separate from the trust issues. Im almost positive i wrote something about silencers, but it seems it was a year and a half ago, maybe not. I know i did not sign a petition about green tip ammo. I've got more on the want list hopefully I can get them knocked out.
      Last edited by doublearrow; 05-02-2015, 08:41 PM.

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        #4
        They are 2 seperate issues.. but have to be dealt with by the same people so it really clogged up their system.
        The rest would all be speculation. No one really knows. The ATF doesn't even know.
        There was a legal case the other day that said regulation agencies don't have to ask the public to do their job.. this could be devastating for us.. meaning they wouldn't take comments or concerns. If they saw it as something under their purview they could simply change wording in order to do what they wanted. Scary.

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            Last edited by doublearrow; 12-01-2015, 07:05 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by doublearrow View Post
              Sorry bud. That's why I edited my post. I didn't realize how old yours was.

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                #8
                Originally posted by 35remington View Post
                Sorry bud. That's why I edited my post. I didn't realize how old yours was.
                Ah didn't see the edit. I had quoted it and got a phone call.

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