Contemplating a Custom LR gun 7mm Rem Mag to a ???????

[westtexducks]

proof is in the pudding .... yes that's a 5 shot World Record group at 600 yds

6 Dasher , Lapua brass, Berger pills, Varget

HOLY COW I can just imagine what his 200 yard groups look like.

[cbd10pt]

As I recall, the .270 Weatherby ballistics impressed me most-

I had one really didn't like pay so much more for brass to gain very little performance. Over standard 270
Another vote for 7mm rum

[trophy8]

double post

[trophy8]

Hard to sell me on the cartridge simply because someone spent way more on a rifle than I have available and is a better marksman than I will ever be.

The best shooter i know, and the guy that taught me LR shooting, doesnt have fancy rifles. He buys used HS precision stocks, model 700 actions, and good barrels. He runs leupold vx3 and mark 4 optics. And spanks the crap out of the guys running 5-10k dollar rigs. He does have some nice guns, but the ones he normally shoots, youd think nothing off till he starts ringing steel.

And you gotta start somewhere. Nobody is born with perfect shooting skills. But if you shoot a rifle that shoots 1.5" at 100 and thats the best it will do, you wont really be inclined to get excited about shooting lol.

[ElGatoBandito]

The best shooter i know, and the guy that taught me LR shooting, doesnt have fancy rifles. He buys used HS precision stocks, model 700 actions, and good barrels. He runs leupold vx3 and mark 4 optics. And spanks the crap out of the guys running 5-10k dollar rigs. He does have some nice guns, but the ones he normally shoots, youd think nothing off till he starts ringing steel.

And you gotta start somewhere. Nobody is born with perfect shooting skills. But if you shoot a rifle that shoots 1.5" at 100 and thats the best it will do, you wont really be inclined to get excited about shooting lol.

I understand all of this. If I were building a true budget rifle for shooting to 1K, I could do it for about $1200 (after glass) without hunting for special sales. My point was that I will not be sold on a CARTRIDGE because someone spent $5-10k (or possibly way more) on a rifle to make a pattern that I could never do.

I understand you gotta start somewhere, but I doubt I will ever have the time to put enough rounds downrange to get this good, and Benchrest is not the game I would be playing if I did.

[Jethro]

Any body wanna talk to me about the 6xc or the 6mm creedmoor.... Ballistics look fun.

PM incoming. I LOVE my 6.5 Creed. It shoots better than I do, with about anything I want to throw down it. I was whacking steel with it yesterday, 2.5" group at 575 yards. I know others here shoot better than that, but that is about as good as my old eyes and reflexes do, especially in a gusty crosswind. Creed is easy to load for, and you can shoot it all day.

EDIT: (Ooops, just realized you said 6 Creed, not 6.5 Creed. I love mine anyways, though.)

[kck]

Here's my new friend. Straight .284. Blueprinted 700 long mated up to a 26" 1:9 Broughton with Badger brake, Manners T3 with the Nightforce glass on top of a 20 MOA NF rail and NF rings. Russell at Scout Supply did a great job and if you get the right builder, they won't charge you out the wazoo for really nice custom work. Necked up 6.5x284 lapua brass, 52.5 grains of H4831sc and 168 gr. Berger VLD hunters. Still ladder testing loads but this is where I'm at thus far. Just posting this as another option in the 7MM class...

[BehindTheSight]

338 excalibur

[Cajun Blake]

I actually have never heard of this particular, I'm assuming after 45 seconds of googlefu, that it is a modified 6mm BR. (You may correct me if I'm wrong)

I like the idea, however I still need to do more research before I grow fond of the idea. Mind if I PM you tomorrow to ask some questions?
Also, can't you do that (105 pill at 2950-3050) with a .243?

EGB or others

feel free to PM me anytime you wish, I'm always here to help people

the 243 will do 2950-3050 with a 105 gr pill ; however the Dasher can do the same thing with 20% less powder ( 8.5 grs )

243 Win. - 41.5 grs H4350 = 2979 fps
6 Dasher - 33.0 grs R15 = 2950 fps

The 6BR has been around since the early 60's and developed by wildcatters for superior benchrest accuracy. It's a 243/308 parent case reduced to 1.5" OAL. The 6Dasher retains the same 1.5" OAL as the 6BR yet with a 40 degree shoulder angle (Ackley Improved) thus allowing you to load 3 more grs. of powder . ... see pic below

Shorter fatter case = more efficiency and greater accuracy

The 6 Dasher has been used in long range BR competition for close to 2 decades and continues to break world records for group accuracy. In the mid 2000's James Phillips set a 600 yd WR shooting a 22 Dasher measuring 1.363" 5-shot group.

I've stated this a dozen or so times.... all barrels and cartridges have an "accuracy node". This is when the SD, ES, and velocity line up perfectly to produce the smallest group possible. People who reload and do the "ladder test" are trying to find the accuracy node for their rifles' caliber. Benchrest shooters and hand loaders have done the R&D to confirm the 6BR/Dasher shoots 105 gr +/- bullets best at 2950 - 3050 fps. Velocities above and below these numbers will decrease accuracy and open up groups.

regarding deer hunting, personally I would have no problem shooting a deer at 500 yds with my BR, and shooting coyotes or pigs at 750 yds with a stable rest. I know my rifles are fully capable of doing it. Problem is, here in Louisiana I have very few places to reach out that far.


regarding calibers , guns, and budget ... different strokes for different folks , that's what makes us all unique





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