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    How do I make a light recoiling 30.06 round. A guy that's a grandfather to me suffered a serious fall a year and half ago. Both of his rotator cuffs were torn along with other shoulder injuries. He cannot shoot his 30.06 at full charge and I told him id do some research.


    He has a Remington semi-auto rifle and I know if I make it lighter it won't cycle, which is fine he can use it like a bolt if need be. He also hunts in Wisconsin on family land and in TX. I was thinking about pushing a 120-130gr and dropping the powder down. I figured if I dropped 10 grains and that light bullet it would work, but I have never attempted such a feat. I know this will limit the rifle and I was figuring it'd still be deadly on big WI white tails out to 200 yards.

    I haven't gotten incorrect information from this site yet so I'm looking forward to good info. Buying another gun is not an option to him as money is very tight, nor is selling this gun since it was given to him as a gift from his house burning down years ago. Thank you.
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    Hodgdon's website has reduced recoil data. They use H4895 powder, and either 125gr or 130gr in their loadings. The basic start point is 60% of max load and work from there to achieve the velocity and accuracy you require. It works very well, made some reduced recoil for my sons 243 to get used to his rifle before deer season. Kicks like a 22mag from a light weight Encore. I planned on making some reduced recoil loads for my 30/06 as well, using the 125gr Speer Soft Point. Max load calls for 53.7 grs, and 60% of that is 32.2, so it should make for a nice range round out of a heavier bolt gun.

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      #3
      Hold on, let me make a phone call. I'll get you on a dang good light load.

      We shot 25-06 and 270's from the time we were 8 and on. Never had a problem

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        #4
        Originally posted by bluelund79 View Post
        Hodgdon's website has reduced recoil data. They use H4895 powder, and either 125gr or 130gr in their loadings. The basic start point is 60% of max load and work from there to achieve the velocity and accuracy you require. It works very well, made some reduced recoil for my sons 243 to get used to his rifle before deer season. Kicks like a 22mag from a light weight Encore. I planned on making some reduced recoil loads for my 30/06 as well, using the 125gr Speer Soft Point. Max load calls for 53.7 grs, and 60% of that is 32.2, so it should make for a nice range round out of a heavier bolt gun.
        Well, I made my phone call, and got exactly this information. Also, dad said he used to load in the 75% or possibly 80% range for us. Just make sure you get good shot placement. Dad said make sure to go with light bullets. 125's as mentioned above.

        H4895 or IMR, doesn't matter. DO NOT do this with a slower burning powder like 4350 or 4831.

        Dad said if he was doing it, he'd do it at 75%. They will be noticeably softer and will still kill fine. Hope this helped

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          #5
          Originally posted by zac221 View Post
          How do I make a light recoiling 30.06 round. A guy that's a grandfather to me suffered a serious fall a year and half ago. Both of his rotator cuffs were torn along with other shoulder injuries. He cannot shoot his 30.06 at full charge and I told him id do some research.


          He has a Remington semi-auto rifle and I know if I make it lighter it won't cycle, which is fine he can use it like a bolt if need be. He also hunts in Wisconsin on family land and in TX. I was thinking about pushing a 120-130gr and dropping the powder down. I figured if I dropped 10 grains and that light bullet it would work, but I have never attempted such a feat. I know this will limit the rifle and I was figuring it'd still be deadly on big WI white tails out to 200 yards.

          I haven't gotten incorrect information from this site yet so I'm looking forward to good info. Buying another gun is not an option to him as money is very tight, nor is selling this gun since it was given to him as a gift from his house burning down years ago. Thank you.

          You could also buy reduced recoil factory ammo.

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            #6
            Originally posted by texag93 View Post
            You could also buy reduced recoil factory ammo.
            True, then you just have to pay out the wazoo for factory ammo

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              #7
              A Muzzle break would be the best route in his case. Still shoot a hot load with very little recoil. They are not that expensive to have installed.

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                #8
                Muzzle brake is the best first option... then load a light bullet at min charge and see how it shoots and if it cycles. If it cycles fine you can reduce the load a little more. Then try it again. Ive done it with other calibers. Just pay close attention when shooting testing the load. Id be comfortable at 50% charge weight. It takes less powder than you think to push a bullet through a barrel.

                For example ive taken apart .22lr rounds and dumped out the powder and replaced the charge with just a few flakes like 5%.. put it back together and shot it... with the primer pressure and a tad of powder it shot fine. Just like a "scilent 22 round"...

                In this care though theres much more pressure with a 3006... so start at the min and test down by 2 grains until it feels good and works...

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ttaxidermy View Post
                  A Muzzle break would be the best route in his case. Still shoot a hot load with very little recoil. They are not that expensive to have installed.
                  ^^^^^^ This

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                    #10
                    As mentioned earlier money is a major factor, will try the suggested powders and charges. Brakes and managed recoil ammo not practical. Thank you for info fellas!

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                      #11
                      A lot of good advice so far.

                      A muzzle brake will make a big difference on felt recoil. Keep in mind that it will make it much louder as well and hearing protection may be a good idea. Here is a muzzle brake that can be tuned and has great reviews.

                      Rifle Parts for Rifle Repair by Gunsmiths or DIY Modifications | Brownells
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                      Shop rifle parts (2,607) at Brownells, including barrels, stocks, triggers, and bolt carriers to customize, repair, or upgrade your rifle’s performance.


                      Other things that can be done to the rifle to reduce felt recoil are
                      1. Adding weight to the rifle. One way this can be achieved by mixing epoxy with lead shot and adding it to a hollowed area in the stock.
                      2. Adding a recoil pad. This is cheap and very effective.

                      As far as hand loads go, recoil is mostly a product of the weight of the projectile and the energy of the powder charge, therefore the lighter the projectile and weaker the powder charge, the less recoil there is.


                      Using all of these methods would probably work best.

                      Good luck. Let us know what you do and how it works.

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                        #12
                        Here is a great cheap way to reduce felt recoil.

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