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    #31
    That is what the ATF also said, I will get a delay but should be good after review. He also gave me a heads up with sealing my record saying if I seal it I will not get one because they could not look into it.

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      #32
      Originally posted by tvc184 View Post
      To adjudicate it to judge or render a formal judgment.

      A deferred adjudication is an agreement that is not much different than pleading no contest in a traffic citation. You agree to pay a penalty (fine, probation fees, mandatory schools, community service, etc.) but your judgment or adjudication will be deferred to a later date. When judgment day rolls around and you have successfully complete your penalty, you will be judged not guilty. If you break the rules/penalties that you were given, you will be convicted. It is kind of like the judge waiting for some date in the future to bang his gavel and proclaiming you as guilty or not guilty. Complete the program and he will claim that you are not guilty. Screw up and he will bang that gavel and yell "Guilty as charged" and off to prison you will likely go.

      For that reason, a deferred adjudication in itself is not a conviction however it will likely be considered still "under indictment" since you have a felony pending. You cannot legally obtain any more guns while under indictment.

      Once you have successfully cleared deferred adjudication you should be good to go but until then, any new firearms are a no-no.

      In my opinion.
      This.

      I have completed everything. It's over 10 years old and still shows up. I talked to my lawyer and he said the state screws people all the time by not taking them off. It's going to cost me 1500 dollars to get my record sealed. No expunge no fall
      What is it that is still showing up? That you were arrested, charged, entered a guilty plea, and completed a deferred probation? That's suppose to show up. It isn't a screw job; it's how the system works. Completing the deferred probation doesn't magically entitle you to a sealing of the records. Until 10 years ago, you couldn't get deferreds sealed. But sealed deferreds are still available to law enforcement and state licensing agencies.

      You shouldn't need to get the deferred sealed to pass a NICS check, assuming you are otherwise eligible. But sealing it isn't a bad idea.

      LWD

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        #33
        Originally posted by Ntxbowhunter View Post
        That is what the ATF also said, I will get a delay but should be good after review. He also gave me a heads up with sealing my record saying if I seal it I will not get one because they could not look into it.
        If I were you I would seriously look into getting a UPIN number from ATF or preferably your CHL...this will avoid any delays.

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          #34
          What is a UPIN and how would I go about getting it if that's what I need?

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            #35
            Unique Personal Identifcation Number...IF you do keep getting delays and want to stop them, ask your FFL for a resolution form to get your UPIN.

            It's basically the same background check as getting your CHL...the ffl puts the UPIN on the 4473 & gives it to NICS at the call in.

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              #36
              Just call BATFE and request a gun. They don't have any problem delivering them to Mexican drug cartels, so there's no reason that they shouldn't get you one, as you are an American citizen with no felonies.

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                #37
                Pm sent



                Ike

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                  #38
                  [QUOTE=txfireguy2003;8299820]I'm not sure how the NICS system looks at it, but I know how I look at it from an employment standpoint.

                  "Deferred adjudication" is a technical thing, whereby in order to be placed on deferred adjudication, you had to have been convicted in the court, the judge just opted to defer in the sentencing portion. In other words, if you were truly not guilty of the crime, you would have been found not guilty and charges dropped, showing no conviction on your record. In a deferred adjudication situation, you were convicted, but the judge opted to remove the conviction upon successful completion of your sentence, which is generally probation, some classes etc like TVC stated.

                  MAN YOU ARE SO WRONG.
                  Deferred Adjudication does not mean the person is guilty, the system can be so f'ed for innocent people some times. Could be just a matter of not having enough money to prove your innocents in court. Ya… you have to prove your innocents, not like it is meant to be. So not enough money, that a plea and get through your deferred adjudication, and you are proven not guilty.

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                    #39
                    can a completed deferred get a chl? Non felony charge.

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