Question about target scopes?

[Witchgrass]

Not here to bash any brand, just asking a question.
I have a decent scope. It's on a 17 HMR. 8x24x50 AO. The AO is adjustable from 10 yards, out to 150, then infinity. I'm having an issue with clarity of the target at close range. Most of my shooting is at 50 yards. When I crank up the magnification over 16x, the target becomes blurry. I had sent it back to the manufacturer to look at. They said they addressed the parallax issue, adjusted it,and returned it. I am still having the same issue. I had a buddy of mine look at it (thinking maybe the issue was with my eye site) and he said it is a little fuzzy at close range, but his opinion is that most scopes are not made to focus at close ranges like I am wanting. He feels that if you are shooting 50 yards, that you should automatically turn down the magnification to 12-14x. This doesn't make sence to me.
For you target shooters out there, do you really crank up the power and still get a clear site picture? I know this is. To a $1,000, or $1,500 scope, but I'm trying to figure out what can I really expect from it. Sorry for the long post.

[Ecoboost]

Quality show itself here. I have been through many scopes on my 10/22 trying to deal with this... I've settled on a high magnification scope that still has a little blur...

[mrc]

On a center fire scope the parallax is set at 100 yards, if it is adjustable it should go to about 500 then infinity. A rimfire scope is set at 50 yards.

[Cajun Blake]

what brand and model scope ?

it's all about the quality of glass used and coatings

just because its a "target scope" doesn't mean there will be crystal clear views

[Witchgrass]

I don't know if it's a rimfire scope or not( probably not), however , with the AO ring having yardage marks noting 10, 30, 50, 75,100, 150, and infinity, I would assume that it would be clear as close as 10 yards, even cranked up to 24x.

[Witchgrass]

what brand and model scope ?

it's all about the quality of glass used and coatings

just because its a "target scope" doesn't mean there will be crystal clear views

Vortex crossfire.

[Cajun Blake]

have you fine tuned the ocular lens to make sure its adjusted properly for your eyes ?


that model scope seems to either be a hit or miss.... some reviews love it, others claim it's " foggy , not very clear , and straining to see a clear target at 50 yds"

I run a LEU vari-x III 36x on my 22LR and it's super clear at 10, 25, 50, 100 yds

granted I'm comparing a $550 scope to your Vortex .. not really apples to apples

[mrc]

After reading some online about it I would have to agree with Cajun it's a quality issue.

[Coach W]

Nope it should be in focus at any range.

What you have is a cheaper scope. I'm running a vx2 4-12x40 and a Mark AR 6-18x40 on a couple of rim fires I shoot the most often. Clear as a bell regardless of distance/ magnification. I often times shoot at long range (200-400 yards) for 2-3 shots on 18x then the next shot may be extremely close (25-75 yards) I leave it on 18x for speed and only change the AO. Crystal clear watching up close and personal impact shots.

Save some money and buy a better scope.

[Witchgrass]

have you fine tuned the ocular lens to make sure its adjusted properly for your eyes ?


that model scope seems to either be a hit or miss.... some reviews love it, others claim it's " foggy , not very clear , and straining to see a clear target at 50 yds"

I run a LEU vari-x III 36x on my 22LR and it's super clear at 10, 25, 50, 100 yds

granted I'm comparing a $550 scope to your Vortex .. not really apples to apples

Yes I did. I printed out their directions on how to do this(after having issues with it after several range sessions) and adjusted it as well as I could. Another reason I sent it to a friend, was that my eye site has been changing over the last year(hit the 45 year old mark) and wanted to make sure it just wasn't my eyes that was the problem. My friend has better eyesite than me, and still had the same problems. I contacted the Vortex again today, they asked me to send it in again to see if they could fix it. They suggested that I set it at the settings, and adjustments to it that I usually use it at, and send it back. They will look thru it at 50 yards, and try to see exactly what Ive been seeing. I will probably do this next week.
Again, not nocking Vortex at all, just trying to figure out if, what I'm looking for is possible. Thanks for the replys Gents?

[ducks-and-bucks]

Never owned a vortex but I know for sure its a quality issue. Only the high end vortex scopes have better glass.... im with cajun. You pay for what you get and thats all there is to it. I have had $50 scopes and I have $3000 scopes. Quality is very hard to come by the cheaper you go. A cheaper end scope works for many people that just shoot here and there and its not a big deal.. thats the same people that say "as long and I can hit a baseball at 100 yards im good..."

If you want to get into it more you gotta upgrade quality.

[dustoffer]

I have a 6.5-20x Leupold that is the Extended Focus Range model (EFR). It focuses down close for RF use. Cajun Blake is correct in that you need to insure the ocular (Eyepiece) is correctly focused for your eye, and if you shoot w/glasses, focus it with them on. Then adjust the AO to minimize parallax. Also, don't rely on the distance markings on the AO--set it by the dial, then verify it is "on" for the range you are shooting.

And, I agree, most likely a quality of lens glass and coatings issue.