So what do you think is causing phycho's to commint mass murder?

[VorTexan]

This thought came to me driving down the hwy early this morning and listening to a christian comtemporary radio station (music only format).


What has changed in America or the people that is making these events more likely?

Possilbe List:

Lack of parental guidance when young

Mental illness

Emotional breakdown due to stress (family, health, social issue)

Economy - sense of helplessness, loss of job

Family abandonment (loss of marriage, children, divorce)

Desensitisization Violence in the news, video games, streaming media links to actual death and mutilation.



All these came to my mind but then I got to thinking of another reason that many today would scoff at but one that I think used to be of concern to most Americans.

God's approval, God's judgement after death.

That's correct. I think our society has taken God out of so many things that many have lost their sense of eternal existence.

If one believes in hell or the chance thereof can he commit such atrocities?

I don't thinks so if one is of sound mind.

I think we are only seeing a small sample of what is "humanly" possible with the direction we are headed.

It was mentioned in another thread, "I wouldn't care if (we went against God's word-indirect quote, or if we gave in just a little to sin, so we can keep certain enjoyable rights for ourselves) Really?

Are we the frog in the boiling pot?

What are we doing?

This is just something that hit me strongly this morning as I was searching for possible answers to this epidemic of hate and lack of concern for our fellowman.

What do you think is causing these acts of violence?

[Humper]

In think it comes down to the disintegration of the family unit. In the past folks took care of family. The young, the old, the infirm, etc.... Now they center on "me" and thus the fringe gets lost. Homeless, mentally ill, the like are now someone else's problem. Now it's lets put mom and dad in a home...they be better off.

[El Coyote]

Pretty much everything you said added up to the better life through chemicals syndromes... A lot of medication isn't even studied in young folks....

[VorTexan]

Pretty much everything you said added up to the better life through chemicals syndromes... A lot of medication isn't even studied in young folks....

That is an iteresting point that was not on my list.

Are we changing because of chemicals, hormones etc. that was not around in the past?

In other words it's apparent kids are growing up too fast due to hormones in our food. I didn't think much about it till one day a woman came in my store looking for milk without hormones. I had never thought much about it till she said, "young man, can't you tell these young females are more endowed that when you were in school?" Hmmmm. I thought to myself, out of my class of 30 maybe one or two girls were "blessed". Nowadays that number has "increased"....

She was on to something.

Do I think this has something to do with it? Maybe a little however I think the guy is correct.

The family unit is practically gone in our society. I had a talk with my wife a while back saying we were going to start having our meals sitting around the table every day so we can listen to our kids and they can listen to mom and dad discuss things. We had let the fast past world we live in have everyone going their separate ways too many times.
That's what I remember as a child was mom and dad and the table talk.

Gang members try to find that sense of belonging in bad groups.

Others acting out may feel alone and think "not only am I alone and want to die, but I don't want to die alone"

In a sick way it makes sense as they don't want to face eternity alone.

[ExtremeHunter80]

Considering the fact that both of the previous mass homicides, in which I may be wrong by this, but I don't believe either one of the men had marriages or children. I do agree with the lack of god in our country and partially on video games. I say partially because I am in the same generation as these kids, and I as well play the same destructive games (for the most part), but have never thought of going to do something anywhere close to what they have done. There are actually a lot of ties with both to the batman trilogy, but could that be to blame? I also agree with kids not learning discipline these days. My father instilled values in me, along with sports in school, to have respect for everyone. If I messed up, I got the chit beat out of me. I remember in football, the coach told us to look him in the eye when any of the coaches spoke. I had a conversation with my girlfriend last night about how it drives me nuts when she doesn't look at me when I'm talking, she may be listening but it does. This is due to football. We don't have any of this any more, and yes I do believe a lot of it is due to democrats. Just my opinion.

[Rather_B_Fishin]

Considering the fact that both of the previous mass homicides, in which I may be wrong by this, but I don't believe either one of the men had marriages or children. I do agree with the lack of god in our country and partially on video games. I say partially because I am in the same generation as these kids, and I as well play the same destructive games (for the most part), but have never thought of going to do something anywhere close to what they have done. There are actually a lot of ties with both to the batman trilogy, but could that be to blame? I also agree with kids not learning discipline these days. My father instilled values in me, along with sports in school, to have respect for everyone. If I messed up, I got the chit beat out of me. I remember in football, the coach told us to look him in the eye when any of the coaches spoke. I had a conversation with my girlfriend last night about how it drives me nuts when she doesn't look at me when I'm talking, she may be listening but it does. This is due to football. We don't have any of this any more, and yes I do believe a lot of it is due to democrats. Just my opinion.

Just goes to prove there are still some of us left, and my beliefs are the same as yours.

[doghouse]

Home discipline would be my answer. It all starts there IMO.

[DapperDan]

Chitty parents for starters. Followed by being a mental nut job.

[Bluesman]

Study sociopaths and psychopaths.

[tvc184]

I don't think that parents cause such actions. A lack of parenting might cause a person or allow a person to be a criminal because he hasn't learned to play by the rules. Not playing by the rules doesn't make you a mass murderer or serial killer.

People tend to say that parenting is the cause for most social ills and many times that may be true but a serial killer might come from the best parents.

In my opinion.

[bowhuntntxn]

I think it is an unavoidable part of humanity. And statistically speaking, there is a considerably less than 1% occurrence of homocidal mass murders per capita. As a matter of fact there is a much higher percentage of people who kill with a car from driving while intoxicated than there will ever be people who go on shooting sprees.

There is no way to pin point why a person snaps in any manner, so blaming it on the lack of faith, family unit, or parental guiding is reaching for a reason that will never be there. God gave man free will, and with that comes those who cannot handle it, regardless of how they were brought up, or their mental state.

[CEO]

The answer is in the title. Can't apply rational reasoning to a psychopaths behavior. No matter the external factors there has to be something terribly wrong with your mental state to commit mass murder.

[bowhuntntxn]

Here are a couple of thing to ponder.

They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."

Bullets change governments far surer than votes.

They are lines from a movie, but really apply right about now.

[banzai]

What about the medications that many kids are on to treat behavior problems?

Take a look at black rifle-maker John Noveske's last FB post before he died in a motor vehicle accident.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/01/the-fb-post-that-killed-john-noveske-2533918.html

[B Littleton]

It seems to me that these specific types of attacks have more to due with a combination of poor mental health provision and a media/ fame obsessed culture. The desire to be famous is more pervasive now than it ever has been, it even seems more accessible with the proliferation of reality television. Combine that with a media that sensationalizes these types of attacks, and people who are on the fringe or outcast from a certain sect of society to the point of being mentally unstable, and you have a recipe for disaster.