Oats vs. Rye?

[sweldo73]

I'm planting just shy of an acre, and I'm following a recipe that elgato on here recommended to me with some slight modifications. I will be planting the following:

100# winter wheat
5# Durana clover
10# crimson clover
1# chicory
50# bob oats or elbon rye?

The last one is what I'd like opinions on. If you were going to choose one over the other, which one and why?

[sweldo73]

ttt

[wreckem04]

oats oats oats

[bowtechbandit]

oats, no doubt!

[Killer]

Rye is probably more winter hardy; the deer probably like oats better. If you are planting around the Houston area I would plant oats.

[sweldo73]

I was leaning toward oats, because they seem pop up fast and the deer are on them quicker.

[spidermonkey]

Bob oats for sure! Just curious, that is a lot of seed for "just shy of 1 acre", was curious why you are over-seeding to that extent? Not a problem with it, just didnt want ya to spend too much $$ on seed that you really don't hafta have. Broadcast "seed rate" for bob oats alone is bout 100 lbs to the acre. So in your recipe you have a 50 lb sack of bob oats, which by itself will basically do a 1/2 acre coverage (once again broadcast) . Then when you add all the others of your mix, you have a lot of seed! Not being a smart butt, just curious of the overseeding. Good Huntin, and God Bless, Rusty

[COOLDAD1]

Oats all the way...... we planted oats for 3 years in a row and had 30-40 deer everyday out there. The fourth year was rye, and we quit seeing the deer. The 5th year was oats again and they all came back.

[sweldo73]

Bob oats for sure! Just curious, that is a lot of seed for "just shy of 1 acre", was curious why you are over-seeding to that extent? Not a problem with it, just didnt want ya to spend too much $$ on seed that you really don't hafta have. Broadcast "seed rate" for bob oats alone is bout 100 lbs to the acre. So in your recipe you have a 50 lb sack of bob oats, which by itself will basically do a 1/2 acre coverage (once again broadcast) . Then when you add all the others of your mix, you have a lot of seed! Not being a smart butt, just curious of the overseeding. Good Huntin, and God Bless, Rusty

It's a legitimate question, so no problem there. I'm still fairly new to this process, and I guess my thinking was to overseed to make sure I have a full plot. Do you think that I could/should back off the wheat to just 50#?

[Killer]

Thats what I would do
50lb wheat and 50 lb oats and all the rest of the smaller seed. You would be good to go on one acre. Just make sure you get a good seed bed. I would broadcast the oats and wheat together and cover, then broadcast the smaller seed on top and maybe drag a section of chain link fence or just a chain across it after you broadcast the smaller seed.

[PondPopper]

Oats and wheat.

I know I will get shouted down for saying this BUT I have never seen a deer it rye.
My uncle would plant acres of it every year. I never saw a deer eat it and had had a lot of deer.

[bone]

Over seeding that thick will choke out your clovers and chicory most likely

[Red_RaiderHTC]

I would get rid of all the wheat and rye and go 100% oats in their place...

[Baker95]

Oats. Google DR. Kroll buck forage oats.

[panhandlehunter]

I'm not an expert on fall/winter food plots but I've had tremendous success with feed store wheat. $12/50# sack. That's all I plant now in my fall plot and my deer prefer wheat to oats. I planted both the last couple years and will be doing wheat alone this year. You don't need fancy seeds. Just go to the feed store and buy a sack of feed oats/wheat and it'll grow.