Couple bucks from our most recent trip wrapping up camp. 170 and 165 respectively
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Originally posted by DimmitCo View PostThat's one incredible set of deer bone! In the skull pic, there's a big main frame nine far right and what look like two big main frame 8s front left and back left. I'm curious the scores of those, and also the score of the big main frame 8 with a kicker or 2 on the right side being held for the picture?
What was the ratio of hunter heart attacks to harvested deer on your Mexico property this year?
Couple answers. The heavy 8 in the individual pic was 172 and ancient...guessing 10 at least . Was over 190 years back. I don't remember what the 9 scored but guessing upper 150's, also ancient. The 8 in foreground to the left was 162 and the other buck actually had a 3" 4 and was 157. Another interesting buck is the very narrow 8second from right in foreground.I forget exactly but he was like 14" wide but had over 40" mass and was 157" Antlers Might have weighed the most of any deer in the pics.
Here is a pic of the 162" 8. 27 " mb's
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Originally posted by Reaper87 View PostRusty I know the drought hurt the food plots but have you noticed a major difference in soil moisture and temperatures in switching from roller crimping to mob grazing to terminate your plots?
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Originally posted by elgato View PostLOL, one buck has consistently caused a heart attack for 2 years now. I had 2 different hunters miss him this year both shots under 100 yds. Last yr. he was missed by our sheriff who is also in charge of the swat team and long range shooting.Again about 100 yds. Big bucks rattle even the most experienced.
Couple answers. The heavy 8 in the individual pic was 172 and ancient...guessing 10 at least . Was over 190 years back. I don't remember what the 9 scored but guessing upper 150's, also ancient. The 8 in foreground to the left was 162 and the other buck actually had a 3" 4 and was 157. Another interesting buck is the very narrow 8second from right in foreground.I forget exactly but he was like 14" wide but had over 40" mass and was 157" Antlers Might have weighed the most of any deer in the pics.
Here is a pic of the 162" 8. 27 " mb's
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Originally posted by Reaper87 View PostRusty I know the drought hurt the food plots but have you noticed a major difference in soil moisture and temperatures in switching from roller crimping to mob grazing to terminate your plots?
I would love to hear his experience with it as well. My guess on this is that it depends a lot on stocking density and grazing duration. Not enough animals, and they don’t trample enough. Too much time and they eat it too low. Seems to me like it would be a fine art to get it down. Still a very interesting method, and one I may try to use at some point if my plot planting and the neighbor’s grazing schedules line up.
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Originally posted by IkemanTX View PostI would love to hear his experience with it as well. My guess on this is that it depends a lot on stocking density and grazing duration. Not enough animals, and they don’t trample enough. Too much time and they eat it too low. Seems to me like it would be a fine art to get it down. Still a very interesting method, and one I may try to use at some point if my plot planting and the neighbor’s grazing schedules line up.
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But with that I literally can see it lighting up the fields. A challenge is sometimes what's best for cattle doesn't jive with planting cycles , termination times or what's best for deer. Also we haven't figured out how to stockpile over winter to avoid having to feed hay. That will be a major study this yr.
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Originally posted by lovemylegacy View PostRusty, do yall take out 8&9 pts to increase genetic potential or use an age based system?
To assure full genetic expression we focus on nutrition for current herd and long term nutrition to achieve epigenetic shifts in herd quality.
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Originally posted by elgato View PostI personally do not believe I can shift genetics with harvest strategy. Our harvest strategy is age based shooting nothing before 4 yrs old and letting the better bucks get much older. Regarding the better bucks we look at frame size, do they have anything 'sexy' and lastly number points. We start chasing the lessor quality bucks mostly at 4 . However any buck with 7 or less points could be a target at 3. We aim to remove them for population reasons and hopefully to keep some crappy buck from killing a super star...which happens.
To assure full genetic expression we focus on nutrition for current herd and long term nutrition to achieve epigenetic shifts in herd quality.
ya know I didnt think about a lesser buck killing a “Superstar”. That could be a problem.
Thanx for responding Rusty.
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Originally posted by elgato View PostFor folks in their late 60's who have little interest in technology it may take a while to navigate this new site. I've got a couple video's in the works ... but getting them on here might be a different story.
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