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    Broadhead Tune mystery....

    Ok, so I normally shoot a fixed blade muzzy 3-blade but last year switched to the 3-blade rage. Got a new Chill-R and can shoot field points excellent, and even the Rage practice tip perfect.

    My question is, if you are not using a broadhead that is open or provides a lot of resistance in flight, why tune with the fixed only to shoot a mechanical? I can see from 30 yds that my arrows flight straight with the field tip or rage practice, but the fixed blade muzzy is a corkscrew and fishtail dropping 3-4 inches low and to the left of the bullseye.

    What do y'all think?

    #2
    I always broadhead tune with a fixed blade just to make sure I have the best arrow flight possible with my setup even tho I shoot a mech. I want to make sure

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      #3
      Something isn't right. Either the tuning is off or something is wrong with that broadhead. If you get really good or perfect tune then your arrows are flying the best they can. At that point broadheads and field points will group together. With that kind of tube even your mechanicals will fly and penetrate better. I think a lot of reports we hear about poorly penetrating mechanicals is because they hit without the arrow flying right. If arrow hits at a funny angle not all the energy is going in to the point. Not a lot of excess energy when it's comes to archery. I want every bit of it going through my target.

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        #4
        Nail hit squarely on the head by Doc.

        IMO, we put way too much effort into hunt prep, money and time to not have our bows shooting their absolute best.

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          #5
          If you broadhead tune correctly. Your bow will shoot all kinds of heads better.

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            #6
            If you really want you bow tuned, PM gmotsu23, Greg will "Super Tune" your bow and not stop until it is 100% tuned to the very best of his ability. He uses a draw board to check weight, draw length and timing.

            I had my PSE DNA re-strung and super-tuned back in the summer and he found a problem with cam lean where it was missing a spacer that someone had simply tuned around.

            I just took a Drenlin to him yesterday for a new string and we worked on the bow for an hour and forty-five minutes. When I left it was right.

            Last edited by Slick8; 10-23-2014, 12:05 PM.

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              #7
              Here's a chart that is trying to explain it.... Hopefully it's a simple fix



              I'm shooting a Chill-R at about 68lbs, 100 gr point, Easton Axxis 340/Focused Energy, NAP quickfletch twisters out of a QAD Ultrarest

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                #8
                might have to get ahold of greg to double check our bows....

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                  #9
                  How long is the arrow? I'm going to say rest contact.
                  Last edited by oktx; 10-23-2014, 12:52 PM.

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                    #10
                    If your bow is not shooting straight and "corkscrewing" with fixed....its doing it to a degree with a fieldpoint or mechanical, the fixed blade just shows up more. By whipping back and forth to stabilize itself it is burning energy with every whip....so at impact you are not getting all you could have.


                    This is 90% of the "xyz broadheads suck, wont penetrate....yadda yadda."

                    I shoot fixed because it cant fail, and with white tails and hogs, I fear no shoulder blade

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by oktx View Post
                      How long is the arrow? I'm going to say rest contact.
                      From end of field point to the end of the nock, I got 30"

                      I am a 28" draw so that's about the right length for a hunting arrow as far as I can tell.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rockstar Chevy View Post
                        From end of field point to the end of the nock, I got 30"

                        I am a 28" draw so that's about the right length for a hunting arrow as far as I can tell.
                        I'm guessing 28 inch arrow? I still say contact with your rest.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Low Fence View Post
                          If your bow is not shooting straight and "corkscrewing" with fixed....its doing it to a degree with a fieldpoint or mechanical, the fixed blade just shows up more. By whipping back and forth to stabilize itself it is burning energy with every whip....so at impact you are not getting all you could have.


                          This is 90% of the "xyz broadheads suck, wont penetrate....yadda yadda."

                          I shoot fixed because it cant fail, and with white tails and hogs, I fear no shoulder blade
                          This is the answer to your question

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CSF45 View Post
                            This is the answer to your question
                            This proves a point, but I was more or less hoping to find a "oh I've had the same thing and it ended up being this" scenario....

                            I just printed out Easton's 17 pg article on tuning, hopefully I'll have a true flying bow by morning, cause tomorrow afternoon it's off to the woods!

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                              #15
                              Broadhead Tune mystery....

                              Originally posted by Rockstar Chevy View Post
                              This proves a point, but I was more or less hoping to find a "oh I've had the same thing and it ended up being this" scenario....



                              I just printed out Easton's 17 pg article on tuning, hopefully I'll have a true flying bow by morning, cause tomorrow afternoon it's off to the woods!

                              You a member of Archery Talk?
                              If so search for Nuts and Bolts of Archery. It's 178 pages and he's working on a DVD.



                              Here's his PDF




                              Or Tuffhead.com
                              The following is copied from their website

                              We saw the need for a better broadhead design after being introduced to Dr Ed Ashby's studies on broadhead performance. These scientific studies have answered questions that archers have had for decades.

                              While our website is mainly about broadheads, to be effective as a hunter, it is the entire arrow and delivery system we must concern our self with. The ultimate design of our broadhead has taken in consideration all of the factors and results of Dr. Ashby's studies and conclusions. A few of Dr. Ashby’s findings are below. To glean the full benefit from his reports, they should be read in their entirety and are available on the links on this page. Do not be daunted by the expansiveness of Dr. Ashby's studies and reports. They read easily and are filled with information that you can directly apply to your personal experiences in the field.
                              Last edited by Pushbutton2; 10-23-2014, 03:24 PM.

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