Bowtech Admiral penetration problems? HELP!

[ice-pick]

Is there a way to check both cams? Have a friend look when you shoot?

[WKH2213]

That can work
You can feel and see them also when you draw back

[Rat]

Easton Tuning Guide:
Tuning Guide

Read these two threads:
Walk Back and Modified French Tuning
Why Tune Your Bow

My Tuning Sequence:
Rat's Tuning Sequence

Even a questionable shot, like hitting the shoulder blade, should still get good penetration; your problem is undoubtedly a tuning problem. You only had 6" of penetration on a soft tissue hit...

Unless you are really flinching at the shot you need to look at tuning the bow and arrows. The threads above will help you understand the why and the mechanics of tuning your rig.

[txdukklr]

Also, make sure the cams both hit the stops at the same time.
The back wall will be rock solid if they do. If not, if will feel spongy

its highly unlikely that the binary cams are not rotating "together" properly

they may be out of tune but the binary cam is a lot like the cam.5 where they are slaved to each other in a sense.

Easton Tuning Guide:
Tuning Guide

Read these two threads:
Walk Back and Modified French Tuning
Why Tune Your Bow

My Tuning Sequence:
Rat's Tuning Sequence

Even a questionable shot, like hitting the shoulder blade, should still get good penetration; your problem is undoubtedly a tuning problem. You only had 6" of penetration on a soft tissue hit...

Unless you are really flinching at the shot you need to look at tuning the bow and arrows. The threads above will help you understand the why and the mechanics of tuning your rig.

this is your answer

[ice-pick]

Thanks Rat! I've got some reading to do this weekend.

[CGeminski]

Love my Admiral, never had this problem. Could be tuning. I would set up a target at 20 yards and put a video camera pointing at the target about 5 yards away on a 45 degree angle. Shoot the target and then watch the video in slow motion. Are your arrows hitting the target perpendicularly or on an angle?

[muddyfuzzy]

Love my Admiral, never had this problem. Could be tuning. I would set up a target at 20 yards and put a video camera pointing at the target about 5 yards away on a 45 degree angle. Shoot the target and then watch the video in slow motion. Are your arrows hitting the target perpendicularly or on an angle?

Hope he got it figured out, we gave him five years.


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[Pushbutton2]

Hope he got it figured out, we gave him five years.


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:-)

[enewman]

I could write a book on this post. To the op. Lots of information on this sight. Start reading and doing.


Here are 12 steps to look at when building a penetration system. It’s bssiclly instructions. This is a cut down version of the steps. This comes from dr ashby.

1. “Structural Integrity of the entire arrow system is the most important factor. It applies to every aspect of the arrow, from the broadhead tip and edge strength to the nock”.
2. Arrow Flight is number two in importance.”You should spare neither effort nor expense in achieving absolute perfect arrow flight.”
3. A higher FOC is important. The degree of arrow forward of center ( FOC) makes a big difference. “Above 19 % the penetration gain continues increases as FOC increases”.
4. A higher Mechanical Advantage is important. The higher the mechanical advantage of the broadhead the more pronounced effect it has on penetration.
5. Shaft-Diameter to Ferrule-Diameter Ratio can be critical. The diameter of the broadhead should be larger than the arrow shaft
6. Arrow Mass or arrow weight is important.”You should use the heaviest arrow acceptable trajectory allows.”
7. Broadheads should be Shaving Sharp. A smooth sharp edge is better than a serrated edge.
8. When considering Shaft Profile, tapered shafts have an advantage.
9. A smooth Broadhead With No Bumps to impede penetration is desirable.”How gradually and smoothly the broadheads ferrule fades into the blade becomes a major penetration factor when heavy bone is hit.”
10. The Type of Edge Bevel is important.”When broadheads, identical in all aspects except edge-bevel, are tested side by side on identical arrows, single-bevel versions demonstrate penetration increases in 100% of cases involving bone impact”
11. When discussing Tip Design Dr. Ashby believes “the Tanto shows the best performance”
12. Arrow Mass or weight probably has little effect in soft tissue. However, there is a significance difference if bone is encountered.

Good luck

[Slick8]

Good info Newman but he hasn't posted since 2016, not likely to see his resurrected 5 year old thread.

Old or not, it's a good reminder to tune, practice and make good decisions on equipment before hand to prevent a season like he had.

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[enewman]

Good info Newman but he hasn't posted since 2016, not likely to see his resurrected 5 year old thread.

Old or not, it's a good reminder to tune, practice and make good decisions on equipment before hand to prevent a season like he had.

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hahaha I didn't notice the date. hahaha but I wasn't the only one. so I dont feel to stupid heheheh