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    #31
    Better yet, walk up to 10 yd. of a deer 3D target .draw your bow. Look thru your peep. ALL your pins are in the kill zone!

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      #32
      Dohh!!!!!!!

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        #33
        This is kind of like when shooting a rifle. Depending on caliber, a rifle may hit the bulls-eye at 50 yards and 100 yards or some combo of the two. An arrow, like a bullet starts falling as soon as it leave the bow. It has to arch in order to hit the desired POI down range. Therefor it crosses the line of sight two times somewhere along the way, once going up and once going down. It is not complicated, it gravity.

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          #34
          Originally posted by TX_bowhunter37 View Post
          Today I went to 20 yards and use my 10 yard pin for what ever reason I can hit 20 yards just fine.. I think its more form and nocking point
          Sounds like you got things figured out. Simple answer is the point of impact from 10-20 is almost the same. Similar to a rifle bullet...if you sight in your rifle at 100 yards you will still use your cross hairs for a 75 to 125 yard shot.

          By the way great question... you don't learn unless you ask. When I first started out I wanted to set up my pins at crazy yardage till I read and learned the standard for most people is 20-30-40 yards.

          Good luck to ya!

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            #35
            Unless your bow was made before you were born, you don't need separate pins for 10 and 20.

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              #36
              Don't make things harder than they are. Shoot 1 pin out to 20 and go up from there. If your dead set on having a 10 yard pin, I have a bow for sale for you.
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                #37
                Will not effect sighting in.

                What speed is your bow shooting?
                I agree with the comments about your bow is shooting fast enough that the POI of the 10 and 20 pins are going to be the same.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by big10 View Post
                  Don't make things harder than they are. Shoot 1 pin out to 20 and go up from there. If your dead set on having a 10 yard pin, I have a bow for sale for you.
                  Too funny!!!!

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by c14smalls View Post
                    they are saying that your point of impact is basically the same at 10 yards as it is at 20 yards, meaning your 20 yard pin will be in the same spot if not a hair higher than your 10 yard pin. The arc of your arrow travel at 10 yards may actually be higher than 20 yards so you may actually shoot a hair high at 10 yards using the pin you have sighted in at 20 yards...
                    this

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                      #40
                      as your shooting improves I'll be you'll move your first pin out even farther and will get to where youre not shooting anything but that one pin.

                      In summary, I'm a bit confused, I believe you've discovered that a 10 yard pin is unnecessary and that the reason you couldn't get it right is that 10/20 is literally a spot.

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                        #41
                        Well I moved my ten yard pin to 20 I am pretty inconsistent at hitting about silver dollar size Spot But even hit that i am still sometimes shooting about 6 inches apart

                        The reason for the stablizer i cant keep my left hard from moving but when sighint in 30 yards now my second pin is ontop of my 20 yard pin so the issue still remains with the pins being set one top or higher then athe previos one

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by TX_bowhunter37 View Post
                          Well I moved my ten yard pin to 20 I am pretty inconsistent at hitting about silver dollar size Spot But even hit that i am still sometimes shooting about 6 inches apart

                          The reason for the stablizer i cant keep my left hard from moving but when sighint in 30 yards now my second pin is ontop of my 20 yard pin so the issue still remains with the pins being set one top or higher then athe previos one
                          Wow! Are your arrows flying 400 fps or what? Sorry. I have heard of a tight gap, but don't think I have ever seen a 30 yard pin higher than a 20. 6 inches apart in one group at 20 or 30 yards sounds like a pretty major tuning issue or flinch/torque on the part of the shooter. Have you had your equipment checked? Not being a smart-aleck, its a serious question. Hope you resolve your issue.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by TX_bowhunter37 View Post
                            Can not having a stablizer cause you not to be able to sight in pins?
                            to answer your original question, i would advise that you sight in your bow with whatever you plan to have on it in the field.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by TX_bowhunter37 View Post
                              Well I moved my ten yard pin to 20 I am pretty inconsistent at hitting about silver dollar size Spot But even hit that i am still sometimes shooting about 6 inches apart

                              The reason for the stablizer i cant keep my left hard from moving but when sighint in 30 yards now my second pin is ontop of my 20 yard pin so the issue still remains with the pins being set one top or higher then athe previos one
                              Does your bow have a string stop, and are you shooting with a loose grip?
                              If so put a stabilizer on it and start over. It almost sounds as if right as your string makes contact with the stop, just as the arrow is about to leave the string, its "kicking" the bottom part of your bow out causing the top to come back to you. With a little bit a weight out front it will stop or help get the "kicking" or "hand shock" under control.

                              Course I may be crazy too.

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                                #45
                                Can you have someone take pics of you full draw side view and also another of the bow let down with an arrow on it. Sounds like a tuning issue.

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