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    Ravage Nocks?

    Anybody heard of these, or used them?



    They appear to be little razor wires that deploy from the nock and help create a bigger wound channel.

    #2
    Look cool but I'm thinking they are weak. Look cheesy but may work like a charm.

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      #3
      Wow! They add 125gr to the back of your arrow!! That will surely create some seriously weird spine issues! If you were shooting stiff, it would get a lot worse with these. I think I will pass personally.

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        #4
        Originally posted by bowhuntntxn View Post
        Wow! They add 125gr to the back of your arrow!! That will surely create some seriously weird spine issues! If you were shooting stiff, it would get a lot worse with these. I think I will pass personally.
        They come with threaded inserts and weights to get you foc back in check. My worry would be my hand!

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          #5
          I don't think I'd use them, but it's an interesting concept.

          I would like to see what they'd do to hogs.

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            #6
            Originally posted by bowhuntntxn View Post
            Wow! They add 125gr to the back of your arrow!! That will surely create some seriously weird spine issues! If you were shooting stiff, it would get a lot worse with these. I think I will pass personally.
            keep reading bro . . . . another 125 to the front to maintain balance. You add 250 grains to the arrow. Imagine a 27" draw with 60 lbs is probably around 350 grains . . . . you'd now be pushing 500 with the same set up.

            my personal would be 412 grains moved up to 662. I'm estimating my new arrow speed at 160 fps (i've always used 4.5 fps loss for 10 gr)

            this would give me kinetic energy of 38 ft pounds vs 67 ft pounds I get with my normal set up.

            in this case this system appears to me to reduce kinetic energy AND speed

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              #7
              $35 for a 3 pack and they're non re-usable? I'll have to stick to working on shot placement

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                #8
                Personally I wouldn't want anything that sharp whizzing by my hand.

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                  #9
                  What happens when the Bleeder Tube deploys on the shot...you might lose your hand.

                  It looks like the guy on the assembly video has quite a few nicks on his hands, I wonder if it's from trying to fit razor wire into a Bleeder Tube?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by txdukklr View Post
                    keep reading bro . . . . another 125 to the front to maintain balance. You add 250 grains to the arrow. Imagine a 27" draw with 60 lbs is probably around 350 grains . . . . you'd now be pushing 500 with the same set up.

                    my personal would be 412 grains moved up to 662. I'm estimating my new arrow speed at 160 fps (i've always used 4.5 fps loss for 10 gr)

                    this would give me kinetic energy of 38 ft pounds vs 67 ft pounds I get with my normal set up.

                    in this case this system appears to me to reduce kinetic energy AND speed

                    Yep but ur momentum factor would move waaay up. At 865 grains (what i was told to use for cape buffalo) my ke off of an 80 Insanity would only be around the upper 50's. But the momentum factor would be way up there. This is the arrow weight recomended by the PH at only 70lbs. At 80lbs i would only be shooting about 179fps.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by The Crippler View Post
                      What happens when the Bleeder Tube deploys on the shot...you might lose your hand.

                      It looks like the guy on the assembly video has quite a few nicks on his hands, I wonder if it's from trying to fit razor wire into a Bleeder Tube?
                      Agreed!!!!!! That just looks like an ER trip!

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                        #12
                        I like to try a lot of new things, but that is one thing I do not think i will be buying!

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                          #13
                          looks like it would slow the arrow down when passing through. there is way to much going on there on the arrow for me. too complicated.

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                            #14
                            I don't really see the pay off. Too much coin for ripping up the meat.

                            Just shoot the head off and be done

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by txdukklr View Post
                              keep reading bro . . . . another 125 to the front to maintain balance. You add 250 grains to the arrow. Imagine a 27" draw with 60 lbs is probably around 350 grains . . . . you'd now be pushing 500 with the same set up.

                              my personal would be 412 grains moved up to 662. I'm estimating my new arrow speed at 160 fps (i've always used 4.5 fps loss for 10 gr)

                              this would give me kinetic energy of 38 ft pounds vs 67 ft pounds I get with my normal set up.

                              in this case this system appears to me to reduce kinetic energy AND speed
                              Your formula of 4.5 fps for 10 grains is not right.
                              The most commonly accepted standard is 30 grains at 10 fps.
                              It is so rare that adding arrow weight deecreases K.E., that I've never seen it.
                              It may be a minimal gain, but a gain nonetheless.
                              It will decrease speed though.

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