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    T.R.U. Nok ???

    I helped my 16 year old niece get a bow. It's a Diamond Razors Edge and she's doing pretty well so far, and really seems to enjoy shooting it. She's only had the bow a few hours and I pulled the worn out Hostage rest off and I put a Limbsaver drop away on it that I had never taken out of the package. There was all kinds of bells and whistles and nocking points, and kisser buttons, and I decided they had to go. I am not too good at tying a string loop, and don't have the time to take the bow in right now, and in the very bottom of my archery box I found a hardly (if ever) used T.R.U. Nok, so I whipped it out, installed it, and got the centershot rocking the best I could.

    What struck me about this thing is that not only is it easy to install, but it actually works pretty well. I found myself wondering why more people don't use these things. I have had countless string loops installed, and I am wondering why. The arrow snaps onto it so nicely. For a young shooter it actually looks like it could be helpful. It appears as though it would be consistent as all git out.

    Do any of you guys use these things? Any experiences with them? They can't weigh that much. And I don't know whether it was the loop or the rest, but the arrow is a little quicker with it. Hey, Mathews puts string grubbs on their bow strings, so maybe this thing could help a little.

    Any thoughts?

    #2
    I always wondered why more people dont use these aswell!?!? I use one, and freakin LOVE it!!! Seeing how the string loop, will eventually, start turning....I can loosen the screws and re-align the TRU Nok in no time at all!!! I was talking with a couple guys at the local archery shop about this, and thier only response was...."its a metal loop, not string.'' SO WHAT!!!!! IMO, there is no real identifiable difference between the TRU NOK and a string loop.....and they shoot pretty much the same side by side....my vote is for the TRU NOK!!!!

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      #3
      Have y'all noticed more noise?

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        #4
        I shot with one for about 15 years, never did have a problem with it.

        Mine was brass, I put it on my old bow probably around 1990. My daughter has one on her bow now too, it's much easier for a kid to deal with I think.

        Hers has developed a funny issue though, the nocks are pretty tight, and sticking to the string. I've gotten some good suggestions, gonna give them a try.

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          #5
          Most will say you will loose a lot of speed with the system and others will say the noise is a factor as PYkiller said and that is true with a lightweight arrow. Put some weight on that arrow and the noise should not be as much of a factor.

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            #6
            Keep an eye on those screws. I saw a guy years ago almost lose an eye because it got loose and came back after the shot and hit him just under his eye. They also wear out the jaws on a release. Keep an eye out for that also. I've never had a problem with a string loop moving or turning once it gets settled in.
            Last edited by Goldeneagle; 07-17-2012, 03:40 AM.

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              #7
              I absolutely am not a fan of a metal D loop. A string loop takes one min from start to finish once you know how to tie them. My advice, have someone show you how to tie them, and get some bcy material. ....... I assume you question metal tru nock yourself by the inquiry of this thread, if not and your happy with what ya got, role with it until you no longer like them either.
              Last edited by brent.westbrook; 07-17-2012, 05:04 AM.

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                #8
                The negative that I've seen is when tightening the screws, the serving seperates, and then any subsequent moves damages serving and/or string.

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                  #9
                  Last night my niece shot quite a bit. I have an older Loesch Jackrabbit release that I love, but that I can't shoot with because it chews up the loops. It will fray a loop in a weekend. Or a serving if placed directly on the string for that matter. But, it works great on this loop. She's using it and her accuracy got better.

                  Noise? There is no noticeable noise made by the release contacting the metal loop. Not on the draw, or on the release. It's surprisingly quiet. If anything, the noise on the shot was reduced. Now maybe that's because she's shooting a reasonably light draw weight just now since she's learning. But overall, the little bow is very quiet.

                  Originally posted by brent.westbrook View Post
                  I absolutely am not a fan of a metal D loop. A string loop takes one min from start to finish once you know how to tie them. My advice, have someone show you how to tie them, and get some bcy material. ....... I assume you question metal tru nock yourself by the inquiry of this thread, if not and your happy with what ya got, role with it until you no longer like them either.
                  You know I have been told this over and over, and this is probably why this thing was in the bottom on my archery box. I have actually tied a couple, but they didn't come out as good as those done in the shop by folks paid to do them. I have often thought about getting me some D-Loop pliers, and some BCY material so that I could make them, but I just don't do it enough to go to the expense. I'd forget it all by the next time I needed to do it (unless I used the Jackrabbit).

                  But, why? Brent, have you actually used one of these, or just scoffed at them? Too many of us get on the "scoff at it" bandwagon because that's what someone else said and they made it sound good. I am guilty of that myself, which is probably again why this thing was in the bottom of the box. But after putting in on there, and seeing how well the nock snaps onto it, and how consistent it is, I have to admit that I was impressed. Especially for someone just starting out. There's already so much that can go wrong.

                  Originally posted by rocky View Post
                  The negative that I've seen is when tightening the screws, the serving seperates, and then any subsequent moves damages serving and/or string.
                  I will have to watch for that Rocky. I am not overly worried about it on this string because it needs to be replaced anyway. I think it's pretty safe at the low draw weight for now, but I am watching it closely. Whoever installed the peep messed it up when they split the string, and there's very little on one side, and a lot on the other. The very little side worries me, and if I see it letting go at all I will make her stop shooting it.

                  Likely it was a combination of things that made it get a lot better, real fast. First was changing out the worn out Hostage Rest and adding the Limbsaver rest. Second was taking all the crap with the kisser button and stuff off of the string and replacing it with this thing.

                  Lastly, the arrow speed got quite a bit better and it's hitting the target noticeably harder with the same draw weight and the same pull. Now, I don't have a chrono, but I can tell - it was that much different. That could have been from getting a lot closer to center shot because of the worn out Hostage.

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                    #10
                    Everything neg mentioned is enough negatives already... I am at a slight biased I guess since I was got many years, one of those guys paid to tie string loops

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by brent.westbrook View Post
                      Everything neg mentioned is enough negatives already... I am at a slight biased I guess since I was got many years, one of those guys paid to tie string loops
                      Well, I am not. And, not many people are. If you don't have a bow vice, a level for the string, and a level for the arrow, it's not so easy to place a string loop, and then when you do it's pretty much there. It's kinda hard to move.

                      This T.R.U. Nok, just undo 2 screws and away you go. So far I kind of like the thing. Especially on my niece's bow.

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                        #12
                        They're awesome on less powerful and smaller kids/womens bows. Most of these issues (the losening bolts, noise, vibration, etc.) Occur in the more powerful bows. The 20 or so grains added to the most flexible point of the string creates a lot of after shock. But I'd stick with it for her sake. No fussing with peep rotation and easy to clip. As for the release fraying loops, a little sand paper of a file to the inner callipers will solve that

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by nock1 View Post
                          As for the release fraying loops, a little sand paper of a file to the inner callipers will solve that
                          Nope. It won't. I did that. I even took at the dremel tool with the sanding compound and a buffing wheel, and worked it over. That thing doesn't have a sharp edge on it anywhere - yet it will eat a string loop in five days, and my Two Shot won't.

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                            #14
                            Just thought that tonight I'd mention that I took the T.R.U. Nok off and tied on a string loop because one of the little screws came out and my niece didn't notice it. So much for that. I expect if one is to use one, they really ought to add a dab of locktite to the threads of those little screws.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by TX_Kevin View Post
                              Just thought that tonight I'd mention that I took the T.R.U. Nok off and tied on a string loop because one of the little screws came out and my niece didn't notice it. So much for that. I expect if one is to use one, they really ought to add a dab of locktite to the threads of those little screws.
                              That is the most common failure I have heard of from them. And the shooter not noticing before they try to draw back, then they ended up missing a tooth.

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