Light vs. heavy arrows

[rhendrix]

I have no idea what my CRX shoots right now...but I know I have a ton of KE. How do I find the right arrow that is a mix between KE and speed. I shoot a 410-430 grain .340 Easton Axis arrow with a 100gr Slick Trick at the moment and Easton tracer nocks. What arrows can I look at that'll put me in the 360-380 grain and still be stiff enough?

[bowhuntntxn]

any 340 or equivalent arrow will be stiff enough, and if the GPI is less than the Axis, then they are lighter. You might be disappointed in the durability of them, since they will have to be thinner walled, and probably more brittle.

[Redneck Archer]

my dad and I are shooting like 750 grains or something close.

shooting alluminums/125 grain BH... no problems with pass through on anything (big hogs/deer)...

[rhendrix]

any 340 or equivalent arrow will be stiff enough, and if the GOI is less than the Axis, then they are lighter. You might be disappointed in the durability of them, since they will have to be thinner walled, and probably more brittle.

Yeah I have to say, the Axis Nanos are definitely durable. I just wanna find that perfect mix between KE and speed...for all I know it might not exist at all, or I might have the best of both worlds already. Just thought I'd ask since whitetail reflexes are so fast and even though I was holding my pin on the lower third of a buck yesterday I still hit him pretty high, and I know I didn't move my bow arm, so he dropped a good foot.

[bowhuntntxn]

Personally I dont know that you will find what you are looking for as far as jumping up the speed faster than the deer's reflexes. BUT the Carbon Express maxima 350 saves you 1.4 grains per inch when fletched with Blazer vanes. So the overall weight reduction would be close to what you are wanting. And at 3FPS per 10 grains of arrow weight you might get 10-12 FPS more out of your set up. It will be a little louder so the deer might jump it still.

Doing the math backwards, you shoot about a 29" arrow now so with the CXMaximas you would drop to about 391gr total arrow weight. You could drop to the 250 arrow if you had some room to cut off some total arrow length and still be safe spine wise. Then you are dropping to as low as 8.0 GPI when fletched with Blazer vanes. For a total of 365 give or take.

All of my math is does on speculating on overall arrow length so I could be off some on the numbers, but it should be close! And Maximas are one tough arrow!!

[rhendrix]

Hmmm...interesting numbers...why would the 350 be louder though if it's only 20 grains less?

[bfnavarrete]

id rather shoot a heavy arrow and get pass through than have speed. the arrow would have to travel at around 1000 fps (speed of sound) to even start to get the upper hand in beating a deer's reflexes. i think bucks have been clocked at dropping 6 inches in .2ish seconds...

the axis nano arrow is sweet in my opinion and is the best of both worlds. the smaller diameter provides less cross section and surface area, thus reducing wind resistance and its high center of mass makes for a good punch. I'm currently shoot fmj's and love them.

just my 2 cents.

[bowhuntntxn]

cause lighter arrows absorb less energy than heavy arrows do, and your bow will be a tad louder. it might or might not be very noticeable, but you can probably live with it.

if you have ever shot trad gear or shot with trad gear shooters, they are HUGE fans of heavy and quiet!! And they can have a very noticeable twang with lighter arrows. Like I said earlier, you more than likely will never beat a deer's reflexes but you can try. Heavy hard hitting and quiet will gt more than speedy and light IMO!

[rhendrix]

I just need to go out to West Houston Archery and chrono my bow...then tweak from there.

[Nitro1970]

Figure out how long it takes for an arrow going 300fps to travel 25yds then figure out long it takes for one going 250fps to go the same distance and get the difference in time between the two. When you get that done ask yourself if it's worth buying new arrows.

[rhendrix]

Figure out how long it takes for an arrow going 300fps to travel 25yds then figure out long it takes for one going 250fps to go the same distance and get the difference in time between the two. When you get that done ask yourself if it's worth buying new arrows.

It's something like four hundreths of a second, which isn't much to be honest. Way to put things in perspective, haha!

http://www.huntersfriend.com/carbon_arrows/hunting_arrows_selection_guide_chapter_5.htm

[LWolken]

If your getting pass throughs on everything you shoot then lighten up the arrow or use a bigger cut broadhead. Thats how I'd look at it.

[500mag]

I like heavy arrows just because I feel more confident shooting them for some reason! And if you accidentally hit a shoulder blade, you might have a higher chance of punching through it.

[rhendrix]

I think my next half dozen of arrows are gonna be the Carbon Express Mach 5's or the Maxima Blue Streaks. Keep reading that WC strings will net you a few FPS as well, but I don't wanna drop a hundred bucks to find out. Any truth to that?

Pass through aren't a problem so far, I've blown through everything I've connected with.

[Mike D]

Winners choice strings are some of the heaviest out there, that's why they are so durable. But that will cost you speed, not increase it.

I think you are putting too much faith in speed. Your current setup should be just about right IMO.


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