Stabilizer Help?????

[Texasredneck]

I'm shooting a Diamond "Razor Edge" and was wonder what kind and how long should my Stabilizer be???

Its set at 28DL & 60LBS dw and was wondering does it really matter what kind and aren't they all pretty much able to fit all bows?? I know that each one is a diffrent weight but does it make that much of a diffrence??
Thanks for the help.

[rocky]

Weight is the main difference I feel, as long as both do some vibration dampening.
I don't want one over about 5 inches, and I've not seen much difference in 5 inchers on hunting bows.

[JBS]

Stabilizers vs. Dampeners

A Stabilizer is a device that is made of a rigid arm or boom affixed to the riser that provides a moment arm for a weight installed on the end or contained inside. This moment arm of weight provides a fixed mass to counteract the rotational and axial forces of bow movement generated from the operator or release of stored energy. Most functional stabilizers have a length of eight inches or more with some being several feet long. The longer the stabilizer the better it works and the less weight is required on it’s end due to the multiplying factor of moment arm, (moment arm = distance from bow riser rotational point to weight on the end of the arm or boom). Some stabilizers may also contain a material or medium to attenuate vibration or harmonic resonance but this is not the primary function of a stabilizer.

A Dampener is a device that is made with a material or medium that attenuates vibration or harmonic resonance in an object, i.e. the bow. These devices are normally short and in a range of seven inches or under. They provide very little if any stabilizing effect on the bow other than loading your mussels with a few more ounces of weight that you may perceive as slowing unwanted movement of the bow. As stated their primary function is to attenuate vibration and thus reduce the accompanying sound. Many of these devises work by converting vibration (harmonic energy) into heat. Some of these devices can be mounted on the end of an extension to provide stabilization of the bow by serving as a fixed weight on the end of an arm or boom, dual purpose.

A simple way to look at it is that if your device is not out past your limb pocket ends by several inches it is probably a dampener and not a stabilizer. Mount a stabilizer on the outside of the riser and put your dampener on the inside of the riser, this method can also be used to balance the bow. A devise that allows your stabilizer to move or flex defeats the purpose of a rigid arm or boom and will not properly stabilize and may even serve to magnify movement with a delayed action from the flexing movement of the arm or boom. The shaft, arm, or boom should be of the lightest most rigid material possible thus concentrating the weight as far to the end of the device as can be mounted.

Moment = Magnitude of Force × Force arm [the perpendicular distance to the pivot (Fd)]

[Texasredneck]

Yeah I've been looking at some that are no longer than 5 inches but, do they vary in weight also?? and how do I know how much weight should be out there?? Thanks!!

[Texasredneck]

Stabilizers vs. Dampeners

A Stabilizer is a device that is made of a rigid arm or boom affixed to the riser that provides a moment arm for a weight installed on the end or contained inside. This moment arm of weight provides a fixed mass to counteract the rotational and axial forces of bow movement generated from the operator or release of stored energy. Most functional stabilizers have a length of eight inches or more with some being several feet long. The longer the stabilizer the better it works and the less weight is required on it’s end due to the multiplying factor of moment arm, (moment arm = distance from bow riser rotational point to weight on the end of the arm or boom). Some stabilizers may also contain a material or medium to attenuate vibration or harmonic resonance but this is not the primary function of a stabilizer.

A Dampener is a device that is made with a material or medium that attenuates vibration or harmonic resonance in an object, i.e. the bow. These devices are normally short and in a range of seven inches or under. They provide very little if any stabilizing effect on the bow other than loading your mussels with a few more ounces of weight that you may perceive as slowing unwanted movement of the bow. As stated their primary function is to attenuate vibration and thus reduce the accompanying sound. Many of these devises work by converting vibration (harmonic energy) into heat. Some of these devices can be mounted on the end of an extension to provide stabilization of the bow by serving as a fixed weight on the end of an arm or boom, dual purpose.

A simple way to look at it is that if your device is not out past your limb pocket ends by several inches it is probably a dampener and not a stabilizer. Mount a stabilizer on the outside of the riser and put your dampener on the inside of the riser, this method can also be used to balance the bow. A devise that allows your stabilizer to move or flex defeats the purpose of a rigid arm or boom and will not properly stabilize and may even serve to magnify movement with a delayed action from the flexing movement of the arm or boom. The shaft, arm, or boom should be of the lightest most rigid material possible thus concentrating the weight as far to the end of the device as can be mounted.

Moment = Magnitude of Force × Force arm [the perpendicular distance to the pivot (Fd)]

..English please???

[Bill]

I have always had short stabilizers on my hunting bows, and this time I put a 9" Stokerize on my Elite Judge. I like the way it helps the bow lean/ fall forward after the shot, and I've carried the bow by the string with the stabilizer pointed down multiple times hunting in some pretty thick grass and it has not gotten in the way. The only place I bump it is taking the bow out of the rear seat of my pickup.

I'd suggest you go to a local archery shop and ask to shoot your bow and try out a bunch of different ones.

[marshrat]

I'd suggest you go to a local archery shop and ask to shoot your bow and try out a bunch of different ones.

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[SOTXBOWHUNTER]

Don't let the all the technical stuff confuse you.. Razor edge is a pretty small frame bow so you don't want to go to big and heavy..

[Texasredneck]

Thanks for all the advice Guys, I'm gonna go to the pro shop Tuesday when they re-open and get some help.

[dustoffer]

I have this stabilizer/dampener on my Hoyt--it is a short one, but I have made several "shafts" of various lengths out of 1/2" aluminum rod so I can tinker with it.

[Texasredneck]

I have this stabilizer/dampener on my Hoyt--it is a short one, but I have made several "shafts" of various lengths out of 1/2" aluminum rod so I can tinker with it.

Nice Doe, the one that I'm looking at is about 4inches long and little or no weight at all but I've been shooting this bow for about 6 months without one so, is this gonna efect my shooting and by how much?? Or if I am comfortable
without one should I go without it?? Thanks.

[luckie]

Go to your local Pro Shop and shoot a hand full of them. The one that gives you the best groups is the one that is right for you.