QAD rests and faster bows?....

[Smart]

Doing some research for a new bow purchase and was wanting to ask a question about the QAD rests. Seems like I have heard nothing but good things about them through the last few years and I filed that for when I went the new bow route.

I have been shooting a Vital Gear Mathews Kazaway the past 4 years and really like the rest but I have a few concerns about it being on a faster bow. Which leads me to the same thing about the QAD. I have read a few instances where some are having a few issues with a QAD not getting out of the way for a faster bow. Then I've read where they have "fixed that problem." Shooting 60 lb limbs , I don't see my next bow (possibly the Elite Pulse) going over 305ish with my hunting setup based on an FPS calculator.

My questions to the TB braintrust are: was there an issue with faster bows and the QAD, if so, did they fix it and lastly should I have an issue with the specs I described above...

The QAD Ultra Rest Pro Series LD below in black was the one I was leaning towards..

[JBS]

Jason, I have one on my XLR8 and it is a 360 IBO rated bow. No problem at all. 99.9999 % of the folks having troubles do not follow the instruction with the rest. The speed of the rest is set by how far down the cable the cord is anchored. You can actually set it too fast. I have my cord set just even with the bottom of the grip. Follow the instructions, great, great rest.

From QAD
*Fits ALL 2009 Bows.

Bowtech Captain, Admiral, and Sentinel require the 2009 Mounting Block for proper mounting. If you have purchased the Ultra-Rest in 2009 for one of the bows listed above, please email archery@qadinc.com
P.S.E. 2008 and 2009 PSE bows with a brace height SHORTER than 7 inches require an additional Spacer Block and Longer Screw for proper Ultra-Rest Pro Series installation (the Hunter model installs just fine). We will ship mentioned parts FREE of charge, please e-mail archery@qadinc.com and include your mailing address.


Frequently Asked Questions

Q: My Ultra-Rest doesn't seem to drop fast enough...is there a spring tension adjustment I can make?

A: There are no external spring adjustments for the Ultra-Rest...reason being, it's not necessary. The Ultra-Rest Pro Series, and Hunter, internal torsion springs are factory set to drop away fast enough to handle bows shooting in excess of 350 fps. It has been recorded that a QAD customer was able to tune his Ultra-Rest HD and High Country bow, 80lbs draw weight, 400fps, without experiencing any fletching contact. The key is Timing Cord location, and proper arrow nocking point height…see below for bow type specifics.
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Q: Does the Timing Cord have to be attached to the bows downward buss cable in order for the Ultra-Rest to drop away properly?

A: Yes! The Timing Cord must be attached to the bows downward buss cable. For adjustability purposes, we recommend using the Cable Clamp. (see above Ultra-Rest installation instructions) The Ultra-Rest is NOT inertia activated. If the Timing Cord is not attached, the arrow fletching will make contact with the launcher and activate the Safety Break Away feature. The launcher will appear to drop away, but upon closer inspection you will notice fletching contact on the launcher.
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Q: What is the difference between your 3 Ultra-Rests?



A: The difference between the 3 Ultra-Rests are as follows...



Ultra-Rest Hunter - Economy version has *VDT - $49.95 retail – 90 Day Warranty

Ultra-Rest Pro Series LD - has *VDT, and *LDT - $109.95 retail – Lifetime Warranty

Ultra-Rest Pro Series HD - has *VDT, *LDT, and *HDT - $129.95 retail – Lifetime Warranty



*Velocity Drop-away Technology, Lock-Down Technology, Harmonic Dampener Technology

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Q: My LD/HD is “sticking” or “popping” when I draw back my bow from the Drop Away position?



A: The Ultra-Rest LD/HD are not designed to draw from the bowshelf...here's why...when the Launcher drops away, an internal brake wedges into a cam causing the "Lock-Down" effect eliminating any chance of unwanted "bounce back". When you use the Thumbwheel to rotate the Launcher to the Capture position you will feel a "stick" due to the fact you are "disengaging" the brake from the cam. (this disengagment process is what causes the arrow to pop if the Launcher is drawn form the Drop Away position)



Rotating the Thumbwheel while nocking an arrow will become habit after a while...go get 'em!

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Q: Which direction should my cock (or odd) vane be facing?



A: We do all of our testing with the cock vane pointing up and it is the direction we recommend. However, if your Ultra-Rest is set up properly, you can shoot with the cock vane facing any direction.

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Q: I’m getting fletching contact, how do I eliminate this?

A: When properly installed and tuned, the Ultra-Rest will drop away every time the bow is fired with zero fletching contact, or return to the Capture Position during a Slow Let Down. If you are experiencing fletching contact, then additional tuning is required. Here are some helpful tips…

Single cam designs: Mathews, Parker, Ross, Martin, etc.):

- With the launcher in the Full Vertical Position, use a bow square to find the nocking point, which is set on average at a 1/8" to 1/4" nock high.

- It is very important that the timing cord is attached to the bows downward buss cable. The launcher must be 90 degrees to the bow shelf AT full draw (The launcher can come up an inch before full draw, but no sooner). The rest will not drop away properly if it is not in the Full Upright position AT full draw. **Extra tension on the timing cord at full draw is better than any slack in the cord at full draw, the main reason for the rest to come up before full draw is to compensate for a shooter that creeps before his shot.

- A common method used to identify fletching contact is to lightly coat the launcher with a spray-on foot powder. If contact is made on the right side of the launcher, then move the rest in small increments to the right until fletching contact is eliminated. If contact is appearing on the left side of the launcher, move the rest in small increments to the left until fletching contact is eliminated. If contact is made on the base of the launcher then your nocking point may be too low.

Binary cam designs: PSE, BowTech, Elite, Pearson etc.):

- Swap out the Standard launcher with the TL1 launcher*. The TL1 is a 1/8 inch higher in the valley, which provides additional drop away clearance. Also, if needed, you may add the optional Spacer Block* and longer screw provided in the Parts Kit which adds additional lateral adjustment. (Refer to above Ultra-Rest Installation Instructions for proper placement)
- With the launcher in the Full Vertical Position, use a bow square to find the nocking point, which is set on average at an 1/8" to 1/4" nock high.

- It is very important that the timing cord is attached to the bows downward buss cable. The launcher must be 90 degrees to the bow shelf AT full draw (The launcher can come up an inch before full draw, but no sooner). The rest will not drop away properly if it is not in the Full Upright position AT full draw. **Extra tension on the timing cord at full draw is better than any slack in the cord at full draw, the main reason for the rest to come up before full draw is to compensate for a shooter that creeps before his shot.

- A common method used to identify fletching contact is to lightly coat the launcher with a spray-on foot powder. If contact is made on the right side of the launcher, then move the rest in small increments to the right until fletching contact is eliminated. If contact is appearing on the left side of the launcher, move the rest in small increments to the left until fletching contact is eliminated. If contact is made on the base of the launcher then your nocking point may be too low.

*If you do not have the TL1, or Spacer Block, please call (434) 846-5839 or e-mail us, to request one.

Cam & 1/2- Hoyt

- Swap out the Standard launcher with the TL1 launcher*. The TL1 is a spare launcher that comes with all Ultra-Rests. The TL1 is a 1/8 inch higher in the valley, which provides additional drop away clearance.

- With the launcher in the Capture Position, use a bow square to find center shot, and then adjust the nocking point an 1/8 to 1/4 inch nock high.

- Because of the unique Tec Riser, we had to grind down the 5/32" Allen wrench (included in the Ultra-Rest parts kit), so it would fit between the Tec Riser and horizontal/windage adjustment screw.

- It is very important that the timing cord is attached to the bows downward buss cable. The launcher must be 90 degrees to the bow shelf AT full draw (The launcher can come up an inch before full draw, but no sooner). The rest will not drop away properly if it is not in the Full Upright position AT full draw. **Extra tension on the timing cord at full draw is better than any slack in the cord at full draw, the main reason for the rest to come up before full draw is to compensate for a shooter that creeps before his shot.

- A common method used to identify fletching contact is to lightly coat the launcher with a spray-on foot powder. If contact is made on the right side of the launcher, then move the rest in small increments to the right until fletching contact is eliminated. If contact is appearing on the left side of the launcher, move the rest in small increments to the left until fletching contact is eliminated. If contact is made on the base of the launcher then your nocking point may be too low.

[Ttechhunter]

Yep, can't say I shoot a screaming bow but I've always used quad and always will. I'd probably go with the HD series, quieter imo.

[Extremebowman]

My bow is not a rocket ship, but is shooting right at 290 and I have had no problems Hero.

[Smart]

Thanks fellas....good read JBS....

[Chiefs]

Great Rest.

[b.latiolais]

You should be good as long as you with the Pro LD. I had the "Hunter" model on my GT500 and I was having problems. I don't know if it was dropping too slow or if it was bouncing back, but something was not jiving. Since I put the Pro on I have not had any problems.

[Brannon74]

I have the pro on my z7 and have had zero issues.

[ArrowHead]

I have the HD Pro on my Alpha Max 32 and love it!

[Hillary]

I've had it on my DXT for over a year, granted I don't use the fastest bow here, but I do love that rest. It has never treated me wrong.

Good choice.

[3children]

They are tested at 400fps with no problems, soooo you will be ok.

[flufster]

i dont shoot anywhere near those speeds but love the rest

[Marine1]

I love mine

[roysmoke]

I have one on my Strother SR-71 and no problems.

[RLB]

I quess I just got the only two bad ones they made! LOL