debating an arrow change....please advise

[Adgerc15]

I currently shoot GT XT Hunter 5575 at a little over 28"

I am content with how they shoot and I like the flight of the arrow. They have proved time and time again that they have the knock down power to anchor a big pig or a whitetail deer. All around great arrow at an affordable price


Now I have a nice homemade arrow saw and I can easily cut/fletch/insert all of my own arrows and be confident in the integrity of the arrow set-up.



My question is, If I were to make the switch from a GT XT Hunter to a Pro Hunter would I see a difference in anything but price? Does the change in straightness make a noticeable difference in consistency?



I have become quite fond of GT arrows all together and they truly are a tough and well built. I have had great luck putting good shots on animals and seeing good arrow flight almost all of the time.
Now I find myself wondering if I were to make the change to a Carbon Express or something with a little heavier arrow, would I be better off with the heavier arrow and greater KE?

My XT Hunters are about 8.2 GPI or something and the mayhems are 9.8 or so. I believe the Pro Hunter and XT Hunter are very similar cut arrows and weigh the same. I am wondering if that extra weight should be a selling factor on an arrow change choice.


Last thing, how much of a difference does the weight forward technology make on down range shooting? I wanna start building a confidence base at around 40 yards rather than 20-30. I am capable of making a long distance shot but never comfortable enough to squeeze the trigger in the stand.


ac

[Swanyriver]

Too close to season to monkey around with new gadgets and equipment, if it ain't broke no need to fix it.

[Adgerc15]

come one GS whats your thoughts?

ac

[Mudslinger]

Going from the XT's to the Pro hunters, if they are the same gpi should not be any difference to an average shooter or bowhunter. As long as everything is the same between the 2, then you poi should be the same and I do not think that you will see a difference. A lot of peole have said that if you taek a new set of GT shafts and cut off as much on the ncok end as you do the front end and get them to your length that you will end up with an arrow almost as straight if not as straight as the Pro Hunter. For the price difference, I would stick with the XT's.

If you are looking at going to a heavier arrow, I would look at some GT insert weights to increase your FOC along with the total arrow weight. I went from a 410 grain arrow at 314 fps to a 560 grain arrow at 269 fps and increased FOC, KE and increased momentum. Momentum is a lot more important than KE on penetration with an arrow. More FOC will make the arrow more forgiving and it shows in accuracy, especially at longer distances. It sure makes the bow quieter too.

[rocky]

I currently shoot GT XT Hunter 5575 at a little over 28"

I am content with how they shoot and I like the flight of the arrow. They have proved time and time again that they have the knock down power to anchor a big pig or a whitetail deer. All around great arrow at an affordable price


Now I have a nice homemade arrow saw and I can easily cut/fletch/insert all of my own arrows and be confident in the integrity of the arrow set-up.



My question is, If I were to make the switch from a GT XT Hunter to a Pro Hunter would I see a difference in anything but price? Does the change in straightness make a noticeable difference in consistency?



I have become quite fond of GT arrows all together and they truly are a tough and well built. I have had great luck putting good shots on animals and seeing good arrow flight almost all of the time.
Now I find myself wondering if I were to make the change to a Carbon Express or something with a little heavier arrow, would I be better off with the heavier arrow and greater KE?

My XT Hunters are about 8.2 GPI or something and the mayhems are 9.8 or so. I believe the Pro Hunter and XT Hunter are very similar cut arrows and weigh the same. I am wondering if that extra weight should be a selling factor on an arrow change choice.


Last thing, how much of a difference does the weight forward technology make on down range shooting? I wanna start building a confidence base at around 40 yards rather than 20-30. I am capable of making a long distance shot but never comfortable enough to squeeze the trigger in the stand.


ac

I really would have thought that the 5575 at 28 inches would be a bit on the weak side for the Z7 at 28-70.
If you were to go to a stiffer, heavier shaft, you could see an accuracy improvement.

[Adgerc15]

This is my thinking Rocky

on the charts I am just on the verge of needing to up my arrow. I am wondering if it is just a safe bet or am I in need of the change?

ac

[3children]

If you do decide to go to the heavier side, your bow will be more quiet. The arrow will absorb more of the bows energy, producing more KE, in most cases. And you will lose just a small amount of speed. Now for getting a straighter shaft PRO VS the XT!! Unless you want the best and can shoot that good you will not notice the better arrow. Remember that the charts for the arrows are years old and the bows are faster now, and when you are close to the next size, go with the next size up.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

This is my thinking Rocky

on the charts I am just on the verge of needing to up my arrow. I am wondering if it is just a safe bet or am I in need of the change?

ac

The GT charts are not up to date on the newer more efficent cams of todays bow.. here are a couple of print outs that show the arrows in question the 5575 is extremely weak and the 7595 is marginal at best using a 100 grain BH.. you can help the 7595 a little by triming it to 27.5" ... you might consider a .300 spine and a 125 grain BH for a bit more FOC.. If you want more information pm me a number and I'll give you a call..

[rocky]

I don't know what the computer will show, but the Z7 @28 inches will actually be 28.5, so I'd cut a 7595 to 26 3/4 inches and if you have a rest with the standard 1 inch overdraw, you will have an arrow with a 1 inch overhang, and it will be stiff enough.

[Adgerc15]

so what would you guys recommend, GT or Carbon Express? either way I need to spine up

ac

[Mudslinger]

I agree with Rocky. I am shooting GT XT's 75/95's at 28", 29" draw and 70# out of the Speed Pro. They weigh 560 grains with about 275 grains of that being in the front 3" of the arrow and I still do not have a spine problem. My field points and BH's shoot the same out to 50 yards.

[Mike Javi Cooper]

I don't know what the computer will show, but the Z7 @28 inches will actually be 28.5, so I'd cut a 7595 to 26 3/4 inches and if you have a rest with the standard 1 inch overdraw, you will have an arrow with a 1 inch overhang, and it will be stiff enough.

I don't like cutting my shafts that short for BH's but to each his own... I already got one scar from a short arrow...

But you're right that would work...

[svcv1961]

Slumping arrows

I currently shoot GT XT Hunter 5575 at a little over 28"

I am content with how they shoot and I like the flight of the arrow. They have proved time and time again that they have the knock down power to anchor a big pig or a whitetail deer. All around great arrow at an affordable price


Now I have a nice homemade arrow saw and I can easily cut/fletch/insert all of my own arrows and be confident in the integrity of the arrow set-up.



My question is, If I were to make the switch from a GT XT Hunter to a Pro Hunter would I see a difference in anything but price? Does the change in straightness make a noticeable difference in consistency?



I have become quite fond of GT arrows all together and they truly are a tough and well built. I have had great luck putting good shots on animals and seeing good arrow flight almost all of the time.
Now I find myself wondering if I were to make the change to a Carbon Express or something with a little heavier arrow, would I be better off with the heavier arrow and greater KE?

My XT Hunters are about 8.2 GPI or something and the mayhems are 9.8 or so. I believe the Pro Hunter and XT Hunter are very similar cut arrows and weigh the same. I am wondering if that extra weight should be a selling factor on an arrow change choice.


Last thing, how much of a difference does the weight forward technology make on down range shooting? I wanna start building a confidence base at around 40 yards rather than 20-30. I am capable of making a long distance shot but never comfortable enough to squeeze the trigger in the stand.


ac

Practice, Practice and learn to know your diffrent arrows. Take an alum arrow and a carbon arrow get out to the old shooting block and shoot as much as you can in one day. By the end of the day you will light up with joy and knowledge of what each arrow does weither you are at morning or evening hunts. You must try this it will help you to learn your capabilities at diffrent times of the day and from there you will develop a stedy pattern with your bow and with the diffrent arrows then you make a choice what works good for hunting. 40 yards and the bulls eye is yours but you must learn what each arrow does when you shoot. Then you must build strength to stay consistent with your bow aming. Then you will learn what to do and what not to do. Guitar players deal with the same challenges as the get better they use diffrent picks. Just practice alot for 3 or 4 weeks before the season and you will clearly see what to do and what to hunt with.

[Mudslinger]

I have to disagree with the above post about shooting both an aluminum and carbon out of the same set up during the same shooting session. I do not see how you can tune a bow to both an aluminum and carbon arrow, too may differences for both to shoot well, especially out of some of the newer bows. The point of impact will not be the same between the arrows so how iwll you know what the problem might be if you are not hitting the spot that your sights are set to. Also, do not over shoot while practicing or when you get tired. You will develope some bad habits that will be almost impossible to break once they set in. Shooting when you are tired is a NO NO in my book. He is very right about learning your equipment and what your equipment can do. The best way to practice is not really quantity, but quality. Shoot every shot during your practice sessions like it is the first and only shot you are going to get, because that is probably going to be the case when yo hunt. One shot and you are probably done at that setting. Just my opinion.

[rocky]

Practice, Practice and learn to know your diffrent arrows. Take an alum arrow and a carbon arrow get out to the old shooting block and shoot as much as you can in one day. By the end of the day you will light up with joy and knowledge of what each arrow does weither you are at morning or evening hunts. You must try this it will help you to learn your capabilities at diffrent times of the day and from there you will develop a stedy pattern with your bow and with the diffrent arrows then you make a choice what works good for hunting. 40 yards and the bulls eye is yours but you must learn what each arrow does when you shoot. Then you must build strength to stay consistent with your bow aming. Then you will learn what to do and what not to do. Guitar players deal with the same challenges as the get better they use diffrent picks. Just practice alot for 3 or 4 weeks before the season and you will clearly see what to do and what to hunt with.

I'm still trying to understand this.
( open mind and all)