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    #31
    Looks like he hit the nail on square on the head. He was just one of the 1st to hear about it and was just giving a heads up and asked if anyone else had anymore info. I would defiantly appreciate this information if I was about to make and investment in a bow. Thanks for the heads up L-Train. Talked to Kevin last week and have a Stingray stab headed this way. He is a heck of a bow designer and I will interested in what he comes out with next.

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      #32
      I know of a dealer down that way who got hammered for voicing his impression of the very early bows. He was dead on with the nock travel, yoke, and lean issues as well. Reason I speak up is if you lie to me once shame on you, lie to me twice shame on me, lie to me three times and we have a problem. Kevin Likes that saying.
      And BK, when people call me a liar, and I AM NOT in fact a liar, YES I will come back to set the record straight. Ironically, you and I started our history in disagreement over the new cam systems. I was very concerned about the switch to hybrid cams. For years Ive been talking to Kevin, discussing bows and of course why his binaries are the "best". Everything he told me about the bows up until the GT500 has been right on with my experiences, right down to why we didnt like split limbs and hybrid cams when I was struggling with a PSE GX. Ironic No?
      Any one still think SA bows tune so easy? lol maybe a couple of the draw lengths.
      Last edited by L-Train; 10-05-2010, 08:43 PM.

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        #33
        Shiner bock Matt?????
        Joe you look different here. lol

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          #34
          Originally posted by L-Train View Post
          I know of a dealer down that way who got hammered for voicing his impression of the very early bows. He was dead on with the nock travel, yoke, and lean issues as well. Reason I speak up is if you lie to me once shame on you, lie to me twice shame on me, lie to me three times and we have a problem. Kevin Likes that saying.
          And BK, when people call me a liar, and I AM NOT in fact a liar, YES I will come back to set the record straight. Ironically, you and I started our history in disagreement over the new cam systems. I was very concerned about the switch to hybrid cams. For years Ive been talking to Kevin, discussing bows and of course why his binaries are the "best". Everything he told me about the bows up until the GT500 has been right on with my experiences, right down to why we didnt like split limbs and hybrid cams when I was struggling with a PSE GX. Ironic No?
          Any one still think SA bows tune so easy? lol maybe a couple of the draw lengths.
          Fair enough Lonnie, I can see your point in returning when you believe people called you a liar. I however, don't agree that was the case, I don't see people saying that you didn't hear that, I see people saying the information was not accurate. I agree with them as well, as I am looking at a contract signed by SA representatives in early June. If they were displeased with him in May, and had plans to fire him in May? Why would they re-sign him? I think your information was inaccurate and was a rumor spread by somebody other than Brian Park or Vance Upper, that doesn't mean anybody called you a liar.

          As far as the cams tuning easily, no, I do not agree with that and have gone on record as stating that the system has some nock travel issues at certain draw lengths over certain models. It is very weird, I am not skeptical about split limbs or hybrids, because plenty of bows have utilized that setup to produce a winning combination. In fact I think Hoyt's tourney record speaks for itself ... Kevin just didn't get it right rushing that system out. I find it super funny though that SA claims to have their "own designs" for 2011 with no designer on staff outside of Kevin. I am pretty convinced with the evidence in my hands that SA did not uphold their end of the bargain and I am not interested in doing any business with people who act that way.

          Anyways, I am praying for Kevin and his family and hope that they end up in a situation in which they can be happy doing what they love. Hope you enjoy the new Elite's Lonnie!

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            #35
            Originally posted by L-Train View Post
            Shiner bock Matt?????
            Joe you look different here. lol
            Is it the John Holmes sun glasses that make him look different? All he needs is a motor cycle cop mustache!

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              #36
              Originally posted by L-Train View Post
              Shiner bock Matt?????
              Joe you look different here. lol
              It is a heck of a lot better than that Zima they are drinking on the north side.Heck I would rather steal Joe's Lone Star. At least I grew up on that in my baby bottle.

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                #37
                I guess accountability is lacking in some folks, I know society sure seems to have gone that way. No surprise really.

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