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Tony Gonzales from Texas district 23 was the only Republican to vote no.
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Originally posted by Pineywoods View Post
What they did is great. The odds that any of the legislation actually becomes law is slim and none. However by bringing each and every one of these things to vote it will put every Representative on record. I think they plan on bringing everything to vote as a singular issue. There will be no bull****ting as to what they voted for or against.
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Originally posted by rtp View Post
This is true. Don’t want to lose your job, vote accordingly. Vote against, get primaried. Puts pressure on all republicans. Now let’s vote to repeal the 87,000 IRS agents. They are about to vote on it.
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Good luck. I gotta feeling that we're being played.Comment
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Dan Crenshaw didn’t vote on the rules package at all. Imagine that…
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Originally posted by Txhunter3000 View Post
This. What better time to get people convinced again that they are doing something when nothing of substance can get moved forward, especially past dementia Joe.Comment
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Originally posted by 91cavgt View Post
Kinda why it was a big deal to keep America first candidates running for senate in the mid terms out of those seats. Please see Arizona, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Georgia for examples.
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NEWSFLASH: This just in on the UPI ticker, the public has been played since elections were started in this country.Originally posted by Txhunter3000 View Post
Does anyone really believe that in the 1920s through the 1950s (only as an example) that members of Congress were a bunch of honorable men and always did the right thing? Maybe the Good Ol’ Boys Club didn’t exist. Does anyone wonder where the political phrase of deals made in “smoke filled rooms” comes from and how many years it’s been around?
The only question is, does your representatives (House and Senate) usually vote the way you want, whatever the reason?
In my opinion this rules package will hopefully at least see where people sit on an issue. Case in point is Dan Crenshaw reportedly not voting. If the people in his district want to keep him in the next election, so be it but hopefully he has now maybe clear where he stands. Hopefully now representatives can’t hide behind, I didn’t vote for (or against) the bill because of a rider.
For many years in this forum and many others, I have made numerous posts about voting on single issues. Texas does that. The Texas Legislature (which coincidentally gets called into session this morning) is only allowed to vote all single issues. They cannot add riders to a bill. So if the legislature adds funding for 200 more DPS troopers, they cannot add on an amendment that says, oh yeah, the representative from Dallas gets $500,000 for an art museum and Corpus Christi gets $1 million to fund snow cone stands to help tourism. In the US Congress that is exactly what they do on virtually every bill. Like, here is a $5 billion aid package to Florida for hurricane victims….. oh yeah, and $5 million to teach critical race theory.
If nothing else, unless they change the rules back to multiple unrelated amendments, it will at least be a benefit to see where your representatives stand.
Even if nothing changes, the worst we will have is that nothing changes. Everyone knows that Congress will basically shut down for the next two years no matter the rules unless both sides agree on a rare common issue.
Before the Speaker was even voted on, I watch a YouTube video where I believe it was Representative Jim Jordan was asked what would happen now that there was gridlock in Congress with the Democrats holding the Senate and the Republicans holding the House. His answer was not about the rules package which had not even been brought up but it is about the same as my opinion on the package. Jordon said that he knows that very little legislation would be passed into law. The Republicans in the House would start passing bills to make changes that they think were necessary. They know that the bills would stall in the Senate and not be brought up for a vote. His conclusion was that in the next election, the Republicans can finally say, we said we would act and we did (obviously yet to be seen). We passed a bill to defund the IRS, we passed a bill to reduce taxes, we passed a bill to insure gun rights, we passed a bill for………
We all complain, usually correctly, that even when the Republicans are in power, they don’t do anything. Now they have gone on record to say we will go to single issue votes and finally get things passed without the pork which is the non-related riders.
Hopefully that is true and we will see bills passed. One just passed to repeal the $87 billion for new IRS agents. Certainly the Senate will not take up the issue but every single Republican in the House voted to defund the IRS. I suspect that in the next few months, we will see quite a few single issue bills get sent to the Senate where they will die. If that is true, then Jordon will have been correct and the new rules package will help. Again, at least we will now see who stands his ground on what he claims he will vote for.
So in 2024 when Democrats claim, you did not do anything, the Republicans can say, yes we passed a lot of legislation, but you killed it. The only voters that matter will be the ones in the middle. The conservatives will vote the Republican nominee no matter who it is and the socialist left leaving Democrats will vote for their candidate. If the people in the middle, like what the Republicans in the House passed, it might swing the election. If they don’t, we will continue down the path of Socialism.
I agree with your skepticism but at the worst, we are not being played anymore today than we were last week.Comment
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I believe the only government leaders who weren't there for money or power were the first generation patriots - the ones who fought in the War for Independence. We started down the wrong path when the the government started voting for welfare - taking money from the masses to give to a select few in the early 1800's. Then they couldn't take enough from the masses so they created the income tax to pay for wars. Then it became too easy to increase that, so they continually gave themselves raises.Comment
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