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**OldRiverRat** · 06-27-2022, 11:10 AM

a little historical context, why i think this is going to be bigger than RvW. if we can reintroduce God we can thwart a lot of the liberal agenda.

From, the book Let Us Pray, by William J. Murray, who was the plaintiff in the 1963 U.S. Supreme Court Case which removed Prayer from Public Schools.
In 1963 William J. Murray III was attending public school in Baltimore, Maryland. Madalyn Murray O'HairHis mother was Madalyn Murray O'Hair who was a militant far left atheist. For a long time she tried to defect to the Communist Soviet Union where God was never mentioned. Madalyn had an affair with a married man while serving in the Army during World War II. Even though she was married to John Roths at the time, she wanted to marry William J. Murray, Jr. She became pregnant and had a son, she named William J. Murray III. William Jr. was a Catholic, and divorce was out of the question for him. Madalyn blamed God for this, then denounced God as a fraud. She boiled with growing anger against God.

In 1955 Madalyn joined the Socialist Labor party. Over time her socialism developed into a Soviet-style Marxism. Later she joined the more radical Socialist Workers party which was the renegade group founded by Leon Trotsky, the Bolshevik leader who masterminded the November Revolution with Lenin in 1917. Later Madalyn became involved with a Communist pro-Castro group.

Madalyn wanted to escape Christian America and go to the Soviet Union. In August 1960 Madalyn and her son William III boarded the ship Queen Elizabeth for France. Once in Paris she headed straight for the Soviet Embassy. Her request for Soviet citizenship would take months and have to be approved by the presidium of the Supreme Soviet. She was also told that her life in the USSR would be very hard. Not wanting to wait, her hopes dashed, she returned to the United States. This caught the attention of the high Communist Leadership and they saw in her, a chance to achieve one of their Communist Objectives. She became the instrument by which they could use her son to get Prayer removed from Public Schools.

Returning to Baltimore she took William to Woodbourne Junior High to enroll him in school. They entered the building a few minutes before 8AM. They passed a few rooms where the children were reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. She asked William, "They do this every day?" As they approached another room, they saw students with heads bowed, reciting the Lord's Prayer. With an outburst of obscenities, she shouted to young William, "Why didn't you tell me about this?"

A few moments later they were in the counselor's office, where Madalyn got straight to the point shouting, "Why are those f---ing children praying? It's un-American and unconstitutional." A heated discussion ensued, where Madalyn finally shouted, "This won't be the last time you hear from me about these prayers in school." In a fateful comment, the counselor said, "If you don't like it, why don't you sue us?" Madalyn stared at him, register the idea and left.

She then instructed William to take notes on what happen during the school day. She wanted to know about any activities that would involve Bible reading, songs, or prayers. William asked why she wanted this; her reply was, "The United States is nothing but a fascist slave-labor camp run by a handful of Jew bankers in New York City. The only way true freedom can be achieved is through the new Socialist man. Only when all men know the truth of their animal sameness will we have true freedom." Next day, William obeying his mother started a log.

Madalyn threatened to remove William from school if they continued prayers at the start of school. Then Madalyn wrote a letter to the Baltimore Morning Sun, and got an interview from a staff reporter. A few days later William's picture appeared on the front page of the local section with the headline, "BOY, 14, BALKS AT BIBLE READING." This was the first time prayer and Bible reading had been challenged since the school board had adopted it in 1905. Dr. George B. Brain maintained that William who did not want to participate in prayers must remain in the class and be respectful. Madalyn removed William from school. Soon NBC, CBS and ABC plus the major news wire-services were calling to arrange interviews with Madalyn and William. Over night the school prayer issue became a national news story.

In the midst of this a member from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) called Madalyn to inform her they were entering the case on their behalf. The ACLU is closely aligned with the Communist Party. (See below) The ACLU instructed Madalyn to send William back to school for legal tactical reasons in an attempt to trap the school board. William was allowed to spend time in the front office at school during prayers and the pledge.

An ACLU lawyer by the name of Leonard Kerpelman was assigned to represent the Murray's pro bono. Madalyn and Leonard were an odd pair: Madalyn was anti-Jewish and Leonard was an Orthodox Jew. The case was presented to local Judge J. Gilbert Pendergast who dismissed the petition writing, "It is abundantly clear that petitioners' real objective is to drive every concept of religion out of the pubic school system... Thus the beliefs of virtually all the pupils would be subordinated to those of Madalyn Murray and her son. Any reference to the Declaration of Independence would be prohibited because it concludes with historic words of the signers...'with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence.'..." The next day Kerpelman & Madalyn filed an appeal to the Maryland Court of Appeals.

The next month the Court of Appeals heard the petition. Three months later on April 6, 1962 the court ruled 4 to 3 against the appeal stating, "neither the First nor the Fourteenth Amendment was intended to stifle all report between religion and government." A month later, Kerpelman appealed the case to the United States Supreme Court.

On February 26, 1963, the Supreme Court began hearing the case. At 9:30 AM the justices entered the chamber, with a full gallery and many reporters.

After a few preliminary formalities, Kerpelman rose and nervously began his presentation. He said that prayer in public schools had been tolerated for so long that it had become traditional and anything that is unconstitutional does not become constitutional through tradition. He told the Court that the Constitution had erected a "wall of separation" between church and state. Justice Potter Stewart interrupted, asking where this wording appears in the text. Stewart knew that it did not. Kerpelman was stumped and an embarrassing silence ensued. When he regained his composure, he said that the text was not explicit on this point but had been interpreted to mean that.

This contention opened a brief free-for-all with judges asking questions of all attorneys and of each other. The meaning of the "free exercise clause" of the First Amendment was also debated at length.

On June 17, 1963 the Supreme Court published its ruling on the case. By an overwhelming majority vote of 8 to 1, (Justice Stewart was the descending vote) the Supreme Court reverse the Maryland Court of Appeals, and ruled that Bible reading and prayers in school were unconstitutional. The court ruling was written by Justice Tom C. Clark. Clark wrote that religious freedom is embedded in our public and private life, and while freedom of worship is indispensable in America, the government must be neutral and, while protecting all, must prefer none and disparage none.

The above excerpt is from the book Let Us Pray, chapter 1: Putting Prayer on Trial.

William J. Murray, Let Us Pray, A Plea for Prayer in Our Schools, page 26, William Morrow and Company, Inc., New York

However good the intent of the justices in this case, their ruling favored two people, while at the same time, ruled against the vast majority of Americans who were Christians at the time. This becomes the tyranny of rule by the few. An old Russian saying, "Good intentions pave the way to Hell."

While the Founding Fathers, who wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, sent their own children to schools that had prayer and Bible reading, did they not understand the government they had just created? According to the Supreme Court, the Founding Fathers were wrong! From 1620 until 1963, (a span of 343 years) school prayer and Bible reading had been an everyday part of American life, which was suddenly declared unconstitutional.

Stalin, one of the most brutal dictators of all time, said if we (the Communist) can destroy America's religion and morality, that is a key to undermining their culture and society. Then America will crumble from within. It was a Communist activist Madalyn O'Hair with the ACLU that got School Prayer removed in order to achieve a Communist goal to move America away from Christian morality and God.

See the list of Communist Objectives to over through America.

**GarGuy** · 06-27-2022, 11:26 AM

Thank you Mr Trump

**OldRiverRat** · 06-27-2022, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by GarGuy View Post

Thank you Mr Trump

the court will be his legacy

**Playa** · 06-27-2022, 12:09 PM